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Natural selection and change, yes; Evolution, no
CMI ^ | December 2, 2009 | Russell Grigg

Posted on 12/03/2009 6:22:56 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Natural selection and change, yes; Evolution, no

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Summary

1.This episode talks much about change and natural selection, but fails to give any evidence that these produce evolution, other than for the various professors who assert that it does.

2.Darwin’s theory promoted the idea that man is “a beast with animal lusts and no morality”, and this has been gleefully accepted by much of modern society.

3.We might well ask: Why would any sane professor adopt and propagate a theory for which there is such paltry scientific evidence, which is an expression of hatred of God, and which demotes man to the level of a beast? For the answer, we quote the words of another 19th century atheist philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, who pronounced God to be “dead”, and gave as his reason, “We deny God; in denying God, we deny accountability.” ...

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1 posted on 12/03/2009 6:22:58 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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Ping!


2 posted on 12/03/2009 6:24:07 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Weird how the article states “a beast with animal lusts and no morality” in quotes......but a Google search returns exactly one hit for that "quote" of the theory.

That hit's the article, itself.

3 posted on 12/03/2009 6:33:13 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: GodGunsGuts

You do know it’s ludicrous to call this nonsense “defending your religious freedom”......right?


4 posted on 12/03/2009 6:33:55 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

>>2.Darwin’s theory promoted the idea that man is “a beast with animal lusts and no morality”, and this has been gleefully accepted by much of modern society.

But Darwin himself made no such assertion.

>>For the answer, we quote the words of another 19th century atheist philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, who >>pronounced God to be “dead”, and gave as his reason, “We deny God; in denying God, we deny accountability.” ...

Nietzsche didn’t “pronounce” God dead. Instead, he made the (correct) case that the educated classes of his day had rejected religious explanations and sought refuge in scientism...thus, the madman said, “God is dead, and we have killed Him.”


5 posted on 12/03/2009 6:39:36 PM PST by oblomov
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To: GodGunsGuts

The natives are restless tonight.


6 posted on 12/03/2009 6:47:27 PM PST by rae4palin
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To: GodGunsGuts
antifree

Evolution is not always one way.

7 posted on 12/03/2009 6:51:22 PM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You cannot take the bible as a literal document. It was written by men, translated by men, and is a reflection of their beliefs and fears in that ancient time.

That just isn't going to work on an educated audience. You may as well try and convince us that the world is flat.

Evolution is a fact, and is still happening all around you today.

8 posted on 12/03/2009 6:52:27 PM PST by Republican Extremist
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To: oblomov

Darwin and the Descent of Morality

http://www.discovery.org/a/1122


9 posted on 12/03/2009 6:59:19 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: rae4palin

Yes, quite.


10 posted on 12/03/2009 7:01:16 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Republican Extremist

On what basis do you conclude that macroevolution is an historical fact?


11 posted on 12/03/2009 7:05:46 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Natural selection is like a tax cut, I hear it exists but real examples are hard to come by.

One evolutionist says stripes on a zebra are an example of natural selection for living in the tall grasses but how then does one explain another zebra, the quagga, which is only striped on the front part of its body. Or other prey animals that live in the same location that have no stripes.
Did natural selection quit half way through the process on the quagga?
How to explain the difference in lions and cheetahs that prey upon the same animals in the same areas yet are very different in their habits and appearance.
Both survive so which traits are being selected for survival?

Natural selection sounds like a far too random a process to produce anything more than minor differences.

12 posted on 12/03/2009 7:17:08 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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“You cannot take the bible as a literal document. It was written by men, translated by men, and is a reflection of their beliefs and fears in that ancient time.

That just isn’t going to work on an educated audience. You may as well try and convince us that the world is flat.

Evolution is a fact, and is still happening all around you today. “

Funny learned men were telling us the earth was flat long after the Bible was written. Isaiah 40:22 told us the earth was a sphere.

Just what have you seen evolve ? Evolution goes against the second law of thermodynamics . We are not gaining DNA we are losing it.

I’ll take the Bibles word a truth over that of some scientist with alter motive of gaining some funding.
So far none of those learned men who have set out to prove the Bible was false have succeeded in doing so.

My dad was a PHD who had trouble tying his shoelaces.
Learned men can be lacking in knowledge in many things.


13 posted on 12/03/2009 7:17:14 PM PST by Lera
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To: GodGunsGuts
the idea that man is “a beast with animal lusts and no morality”,

One can't help but notice, in many cases this is actually a correct statement.

14 posted on 12/03/2009 7:19:22 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: GodGunsGuts
I'm an educated man.

You should not be asking for proof when your entire belief system is based entirely on faith, which is the lack of proof coupled with the refusal to consider any opposing viewpoint. I could show you any amount of proof, but with a closed mind, nothing could convince you.

Darwin was a Naturalist and a Christian. He had both faith in God and open mind, as they are not mutually exclusive.

16 posted on 12/03/2009 7:24:25 PM PST by Republican Extremist
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To: Republican Extremist

“I’m an educated man.”

Any particular field or just generally so?


17 posted on 12/03/2009 7:30:05 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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18 posted on 12/03/2009 7:31:45 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Republican Extremist

Ok, so you can’t explain why you think macroevolution is an historical fact. Now that we know your belief in macroevolution is based on blind faith and not empirical science, why do you assume that creation scientists are just as blind as the evolutionists?


19 posted on 12/03/2009 7:38:54 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
why do you assume that creation scientists are just as blind as more blind than the evolutionists?

fixed ...

20 posted on 12/03/2009 7:40:41 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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