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Michael Barone: Tuesday's Biggest Loser: The Union Agenda
The Wall Street Journal ^ | November 5, 2009 | Michael Barone

Posted on 11/05/2009 5:06:31 AM PST by Wpin

If you were watching television on Tuesday night as the election returns came in showing Republicans capturing the governorships of Virginia and New Jersey, you probably missed seeing the biggest losers of the evening. You may have caught the concession speech of Creigh Deeds, who ran 12% behind Barack Obama's winning percentage of the vote in Virginia, and that of Jon Corzine who, after spending over $100 million of his own money on three campaigns, ran 13% behind Obama's winning percentage in New Jersey and got evicted from Drumthwacket, the governor's mansion in Princeton.

But you missed seeing the guy who may have been the biggest loser of all—a man who according to recently released White House logs has been a guest in the White House 22 times since Barack Obama became president, more than any other single individual.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: barone; corruption; democrats; mcdonnell; unions; va2009
This is an excellent read...we need to kill these union arms of the democrat party. We will never be free until we do.
1 posted on 11/05/2009 5:06:33 AM PST by Wpin
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To: Wpin

I hate unions. And not just the corrupt bosses. I hate the union workers too. I hate the union worker mentality. I have no respect at all for union workers. They are entitlement-seeking, do-the-minimum, loafers. I spit on all of them.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 5:13:14 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Wpin

$60 million for Barack Obama and other Democrats in the 2008 campaign cycle. Altogether, Mr. Stern and other labor union leaders reportedly gave Democrats some $400 million last year.

Why not put these dollars into the pension funds and paychecks and stay out of politics.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 5:15:46 AM PST by Achilles Heel
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To: Wpin

A must read article.


4 posted on 11/05/2009 5:16:50 AM PST by SueRae
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To: Achilles Heel

Unions won’t stop supporting democrat party because they cannot exist without the monopolistic power given to them by the democrats. Democrats in return get all this money, it is a shakedown of the union workers and American taxpayers. That is partly what makes the democrat party corrupt by philosophy, they have other examples as well.


5 posted on 11/05/2009 5:18:16 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Wpin

Unions are for STUPID people.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 5:19:35 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Wpin

“Mr. Obama benefited last year from a big turnout of young voters, who backed him by a 66% to 32% margin. This year young voters formed only about half as large a percentage of the electorate in Virginia and New Jersey as they did in 2008, and in Virginia they voted about as Republican as their elders.”

“Hey, dude. You gonna vote?”

“Vote? There’s an election?”

“Yeah, some dudes are running or something.”

“Yeah? Pass me the chips.”

(sound of joint being lit.)

“What’s on TV?”


7 posted on 11/05/2009 5:23:19 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Ann Archy

Ronald Reagan was a member of a union. In fact I think he was president of the Screen Actors Guild for a time. I would hardly call him stupid.


8 posted on 11/05/2009 5:26:12 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Ann Archy

A 2008 presidential candidate promised to build at least 40 new nuclear power plants, yet the union whose members would benefit most from this sent out letters to it’s members to vote for the other candidate, even though the first candidates VP candidate’s husband was a union member.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 5:26:27 AM PST by curth
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To: Huck
The big-government programs of Obama Democrats evidently have less appeal than those trendy posters and inspiring rallies and cries of "We are the change we are seeking." I have yet to see survey research showing that young Americans want to work under union contracts, with their 5,000 pages of work rules and rigid seniority systems. That doesn't sound like a tune that appeals to the iPod generation.

The iPod generation will soon learn that they have voted themselves into indentured servitude.

10 posted on 11/05/2009 5:26:56 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (I'd like to meet that mom..you know the skinny one with the white teeth that makes $80K from home.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
The iPod generation will soon learn that they have voted themselves into indentured servitude.

The IPOD generation will be lucky to find work or feed themselves.

11 posted on 11/05/2009 5:28:30 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Huck

Careful what you say. Many Union rank and file are vote with us. The Union bosses are the guys that you should hate!


12 posted on 11/05/2009 5:30:58 AM PST by man from mars
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To: Maine Mariner
Ronald Reagan was a member of a union. In fact I think he was president of the Screen Actors Guild for a time. I would hardly call him stupid.

He was also an FDR Democrat. No small coincidence.

13 posted on 11/05/2009 5:33:07 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: man from mars

I don’t care how they vote. Every union worker I ever met was a loafing, entitlement seeking shovel leaner. I despise the whole mindset.


14 posted on 11/05/2009 5:34:32 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Wpin
Governments from the local all the way to BamaKennedy’s office employee the most union members. That is why Nanny state Pelosi has ‘created’ so many new government positions.

These liberals can only get so many votes from their Wall Street winners and they will need UNIONs to get out their vote every election.

States will load up their ballots for UNIONs causes just to get that vote out. Course don't forget that only a small portion of the walking around stimulus money has yet to be spent....

15 posted on 11/05/2009 5:34:42 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Wpin

Michael Barone is always very thoughtful and his articles are well researched. Unions should have little power and even less money from government. When we retake the House in 2010, we need to reverse all of the union handouts. It is bad enough that the crook union bosses are stealing from their members union dues (many have similar political leanings but not all and most would much rather their money be spent locally on something that would benefit them directly than on contributions to the Dims at the federal level or for state elections), but most of the dues are being stolen from them for political reasons.


16 posted on 11/05/2009 5:35:13 AM PST by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: Huck
I hate unions.

I only have a problem with public employee unions. Gubment workers should NOT unionize.

17 posted on 11/05/2009 5:36:29 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Gubment workers should NOT unionize.

Sorta redundant, I guess. Being a communist loafer isn't good enough. They have to be communist communist loafer loafers. lol.

18 posted on 11/05/2009 5:47:44 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Huck; Ann Archy

As a union member who bucks the democrates agenda, I don’t appreciate your spit. You should focus on the union leadership, not necessarily it’s members, as I do, as an outlet for your disgust.


19 posted on 11/05/2009 5:50:38 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Wpin

I have never understood how union state’s are premitted to discriminate against their non-union populations in favor of union employ. To me it is simply anti-constitutional to allow any government to discriminate in favor of a select group (who pays for the privlidge) with respect to employment contracts. If you are talking about civil rights, and equality, how do you get to unionism?


20 posted on 11/05/2009 5:52:52 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: jaydubya2

My disgust isn’t merely political. That’s part of it, I guess. I certainly wouldn’t be a member of such a group. But my disdain mostly just comes from my first hand experience of the union worker’s “work ethic.” It’s all about benefits, time off, entitlements, etc. The whole mindset runs contrary to what any enterprising, self-respecting person would adopt.


21 posted on 11/05/2009 5:53:52 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Huck

I’m not gonna spit on anybody, but my experiences with union workers are exactly the same as yours. If they worked as hard doing their job as they do trying to get out of working, they might get some respect. They end up crushing their companies, lose their jobs and then cry to the government for more handouts.


22 posted on 11/05/2009 6:03:47 AM PST by battletank
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To: battletank

Well, I don’t “literally” spit on them. :-)


23 posted on 11/05/2009 6:08:25 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: battletank
If they worked as hard doing their job as they do trying to get out of working, they might get some respect

But then, complaining about a union worker for loafing is like complaining about a thief for stealing.

24 posted on 11/05/2009 6:09:56 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Huck

You are right, no small coincidence.

My point is there are many conservatives, and some FREEPERS that belong to unions. At various times unions have supported Republicans, especially Nixon in 1972.

If I was a conservative faculty member at a large university, I might very well want a union to safeguard my position in the face of far left-wing colleagues and administrators (many of whom are more left than the faculty).


25 posted on 11/05/2009 6:10:32 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Huck

HA! True!

And I don’t mean to suggest I don’t WANT to spit on the 7 workers standing around balancing on their shovels while 1 digs a hole and traffic is backed up for 10 miles.


26 posted on 11/05/2009 6:13:17 AM PST by battletank
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I only have a problem with public employee unions.

Way back when, I remember that the idea was that there were two employment paths;
1) Work in the private sector where you had to work hard, got competitive wages and had chances for personal success.
2) Work in the public sector where there was easier bureaucratic work, wages and success were less than the private sector but you got good benefits and vacation&holidays.

Now what do we see? Public sector wages are almost uniformly higher for the same work, pension and benefits are enormously better, job security is almost a given and life is still easier than the private sector. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

Robert Heinlein - "Notebooks of Lazarus Long" / "Time Enough for Love" (1973) - In a mature society, “civil servant” is semantically equal to “civil master.”

27 posted on 11/05/2009 6:15:04 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Huck
I hate unions. And not just the corrupt bosses. I hate the union workers too. I hate the union worker mentality. I have no respect at all for union workers. They are entitlement-seeking, do-the-minimum, loafers. I spit on all of them.

I know several union guys that are hard working and good people. They are steam fitters and plumbers and do not fit your description.

28 posted on 11/05/2009 6:33:48 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Huck

You shouldn’t hate them. They have done some good things. Do you like the 5 day work week? Thank a union. Not too long ago (only a little before my time) work was a 10 hour day, six days a week. Unions had the largest part in changing that.

That said, they have mostly out-lived their usefulness. They need to go somewhere else that needs their help, like the People’s Republic of China.


29 posted on 11/05/2009 6:35:53 AM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: Little Ray
You shouldn’t hate them. They have done some good things. Do you like the 5 day work week? Thank a union.

I'm self-employed. 5 day work week?? lol!!

Not too long ago (only a little before my time) work was a 10 hour day, six days a week. Unions had the largest part in changing that.

That changed? I must have missed the memo. This is exactly what I'm talking about. To a motivated, self-supporting, inspired business person, all that stuff you mentioned is bullcrap. I work 10 hours or more on a regular basis. I'm constantly improving what I do, because I love it and because the marketplace demands it. I work 6 days a week all time time. I like to say it's as the Lord intended. The whole 40 hr week, 5 days a week, paid sick time paid this paid that is union entitlement thinking. Makes me wanna puke.

30 posted on 11/05/2009 6:42:31 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Huck
I am glad you are self-employed. Someday, I'm sure you're gonna be rich and employing more people to make even more money and create lots of leisure time for yourself; you deserve it. The world wouldn't turn without people like you.
But some people, like you are leaders and others, like me, are followers. We can't all be entrepreneurs.
31 posted on 11/05/2009 6:48:20 AM PST by Little Ray (The beatings will continue until GOP comes to heel.)
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To: Huck
Do you beleive in the right of a group of employees to collectively bargin a contract with their employer?

I don't see how that is anti-enterprising, perhaps just the opposite.
32 posted on 11/05/2009 6:51:32 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Wpin

“Maybe around the country union members will start asking their leaders what they have gotten for all the money they’ve spent on politics.”

There was once a time when Unions were a great benefit to workers. That has not been true since about the 1960’s. Today, it is obvious, Unions are out to take over businesses, and become the ones that run them rather than their owners and share holders. Thats not right. The Thuggery that was present in Union history still exists today, the biggest difference is that the Unions are neither wanted nor are they NEEDED in a modern day economy.

I think it’s time that Unions took their place in history. Now a days they are doing as much harm as good, and for certain, they aren’t representing their members wishes. They represent their own. The peons trapped in their systems opinions are completely irrelevant to them. And it shows.


33 posted on 11/05/2009 7:04:45 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Little Ray

Well just to show I’m fair, I hate corporations too. Just as bad as government, and for all the same reasons. Thanks for your compliments. That’s very nice of you. It’s just been my experience that unions (and corporations) are dens of bullcrap. Small businesses are more honest. I’ve always preferred working for small business people, and now I prefer being one. Good luck to you.


34 posted on 11/05/2009 7:15:42 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: jaydubya2

Absolutely Employees have the right to collectively Bargan. Thing is, the Unions as they stand today are forcing things on business that makes it impossible for the businesses to compete. Whats better, Unions who are out to take over business, or a non-existent business that has dies and laid off all its employees? Or worse yet, been taken over by the federal Government?

There needs to be a balance, and right now, for those people forced into unions, there isn’t one. The money they earn is taken from them, and the union boses decide how to spend it. To the tune of millions of dollars into the pockets of the DNC.


35 posted on 11/05/2009 7:18:08 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: jaydubya2
Do you beleive in the right of a group of employees to collectively bargin a contract with their employer?

Only if an employer has a right to not hire organized labor.

36 posted on 11/05/2009 7:21:22 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: jaydubya2

It’s funny how when unions do it, it’s called “collective bargaining”, but when businesses do it, it’s called “collusion.” Something’s rotten in Denmark.


37 posted on 11/05/2009 7:22:47 AM PST by Huck (Liberty?? We live in a country that banned BEER and WINE only 3 generations ago.)
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To: Danae

I agree with your comments. That’s why this union member is agaisnt card check, and for Right to Work provisions. Union membership should not be a mandate for employment.


38 posted on 11/05/2009 7:23:00 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

“I have never understood how union state’s are premitted to discriminate against their non-union populations in favor of union employ. To me it is simply anti-constitutional to allow any government to discriminate in favor of a select group (who pays for the privlidge) with respect to employment contracts. If you are talking about civil rights, and equality, how do you get to unionism?”

You are correct of course, but since when does American constitution and democracy matter to democrats?


39 posted on 11/05/2009 7:25:12 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Danae

Amen


40 posted on 11/05/2009 7:33:39 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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bttt


41 posted on 11/05/2009 7:45:44 AM PST by eureka! (Turn the Tea Party into our own ACORN when voting time comes. GOTV.)
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To: Wpin; Huck; Achilles Heel; SueRae; Ann Archy; Seruzawa; Maine Mariner; curth; Mygirlsmom; ...
Unions working in cahoots with management seem to still perfectly capable of getting whatever they want on Main Street.

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42 posted on 11/05/2009 8:16:05 AM PST by Milhous (Confusion to our enemies.)
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To: Huck
I was reared in an union environment. I worked my way through school by working on union jobs in the summers.

For a time, my father was a union official, but the corruption he saw "from the inside" disgusted him so much he turned in his union-supplied car, resigned, and "went back on the tools".

I saw so much "union crap" while I was working that I swore that, if I ever owned a company, I would shoot any union organizer whose shadow crossed my threshhold.

Unions are EVIL!!!


43 posted on 11/05/2009 9:10:05 AM PST by TXnMA (FR's resident "unsientific [sic] dogmatist")
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To: Wpin

Add Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton.
They are “shakedown artists?” too, who derive their power from the Democratic Party.


44 posted on 11/05/2009 9:10:17 AM PST by noah (noah)
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To: noah

“Add Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton.
They are “shakedown artists?” too, who derive their power from the Democratic Party.”

Oh yes, you can literally add every group that is a “constituency” of the democrat party. Consider gays with their now special rights, Affirmative Action (legal discrimination against white and asian people), and any other democrat group you wish. It is a corrupt relationship of granting excessive group power to monopolize, harrass, or otherwise hold over upon others in exchange for support (votes and dollars) for democrats.


45 posted on 11/05/2009 11:48:04 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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