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Students Test Public Reactions To Hijab Scarves
Newhouse News ^ | 5/8/2008 | Elizabeth Doran

Posted on 05/09/2008 10:04:16 AM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: muawiyah

What’s your point? All of us (men and women) must be encouraged to wear the hijab/burkha as long as we are aware that “That didn’t turn [us] into Moslems.”

BTW, show me ONE picture/photo of non-Muslim Western women who wore a hijab/burkha - and I prefer to see the head-to-toe variety.

A hijab/burkha is NOT a scarf and any such comparison is bizarre.


21 posted on 05/09/2008 10:22:39 AM PDT by indcons
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To: muawiyah

Odds are good that your grandmothers wore scarves.

Having given it a thought, my grandmother did wear a scarf, or some kind of hat outside the house, and thought it quite daring to speak a good word about a Catholic neighbor from back in the twenties.


22 posted on 05/09/2008 10:22:59 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: metmom; Fred Nerks

Ping


23 posted on 05/09/2008 10:24:00 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Belasarius

And the Catholic neighbor wore a scarf INSIDE church.

Brides wear scarfs.


24 posted on 05/09/2008 10:24:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Logic facts and reason! what are you doing?!!


25 posted on 05/09/2008 10:25:39 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: muawiyah

You clearly do not get my point...
They say they feel more ‘feminine’ dressing like Muslim women. The evidence is clear that the Islamic community worldwide represses and ostracizes women. Their ‘education’ on what it would be like to live life as a Muslim woman is, to put it mildly, lacking.


26 posted on 05/09/2008 10:27:55 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: BlueNgold

Think of it like a fetish, the hair is hidden making it taboo.

I know a few Orthodox Jewish women who wear wigs because of religious codes and it makes them feel much more feminine and sexy.

Or as a former professon of mine told us in class one day, he was out studying a tribe for 6 months, all the women went topless, but wore long skirts down to the ground. When he got back to the US, he was indifferent to breasts, but he would lose his train of thought at seeing an ankle. To make matters worse (or better), when he came back mini-skirts were in fashion.


27 posted on 05/09/2008 10:27:59 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: muawiyah

I want whats due me.
I am gonna wear blackface for a week and get free stuff.


28 posted on 05/09/2008 10:29:11 AM PDT by Selmore (If your gonna take the hill, take the hill.)
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To: indcons

29 posted on 05/09/2008 10:32:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BlueNgold
Whatever they felt the one girl said something on the order of the guys no longer stared at her "enormous American breasts" ~ (something like that).

Not sure that made her feel more feminine, but, yeah ~ who could tell if she still had them.

30 posted on 05/09/2008 10:33:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Philly Nomad
John McCain missed out on the entire mini-skirt thing ~ that's how long he was a POW, and how short that particular fashion statement was.

Waiting on the next big fashion statement ~ it combines the mini-skirt with the mini-thong. Oh, yeah!!!!

31 posted on 05/09/2008 10:37:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Incorrigible

Wear a straw hat and a chip on your shoulder.


32 posted on 05/09/2008 10:37:50 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: muawiyah

A bridal veil is the same as a burkha/hijab now? Do women in the West wear bridal veils that cover all features except their eyes too? Can you end me the picture I asked for insteadof just any picture?

Is this woman forced to wear it the entire day? Is she killed by her brothers/father if she removes it (”honor” killings)? Does she suffer from the +20 degree temperatures (compared to the surrounding temperature; variable) that build up within a full-body black burkha?

The moral equivalence between a woman who chooses to wear a scarf (for appearance and voluntarily) and a woman who is forced, at the pain of death, to wear a hijab is disgusting. The former indicates that women are free to wear what they choose; the latter indicates oppression and a denial of basic freedoms.

If you want to continue making these specious moral equivalence arguments, be my guest.


33 posted on 05/09/2008 10:42:19 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Incorrigible

The stupidity of this generation of American People never ceases to amaze me....


34 posted on 05/09/2008 10:42:55 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (waiting for the backlash.........)
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To: muawiyah
I can see her back, arms, and hair (and that's only the top half of her body and with her back turned to me). This is not a burkha/hijab.

See below for a real burkha.


35 posted on 05/09/2008 10:45:07 AM PDT by indcons
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To: Incorrigible
Seraji said she didn't worry that Muslims would be offended by the class experiment because the faith encourages its followers to pray in other churches and unite with those of other faiths.

say what?

36 posted on 05/09/2008 10:47:25 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: neverdem; The Mayor
The girls wore the hijab to school every day, to a shopping mall, grocery, feed store, department store and dance studio.

the feed store.... You can tell it's in Central NY. And it's not like Manlius Pebble Hill is in any slouch neighborhood. It takes buko bucks to send your kid there.

Personally, I'd want an education for that kind of money.

37 posted on 05/09/2008 10:49:55 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Incorrigible

God, I hate islam.


38 posted on 05/09/2008 10:50:37 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: indcons
Yes to most of your questions ~ obviously you haven't been to all that many weddings.

Honor killings occur in Sicily and none of those guys are Moslems. Besides, that was a cultural value around long before Islam anyway.

My wife always plans for the bride to "change clothes" quickly after the ceremony so that she's not worn out for the rest of the day. If you hadn't noticed almost all bridal gowns are neck to floor, hot, stuffy, body de-enhancing, etc. (except where the bride tries to pretend she has "enormous American breasts".)

BTW, we attended a betrothment for a friend's daughter (they're Shia). She had several girls she went to highschool with her. They all wore these really elaborate and quite fancy Afghan wedding dresses. Bright colors, etc. AND ALL WITH VEILS.

They have several shops in the area that rent them (and with 25,000 Afghans we definitely have some weddings going on).

The biggest difference between the Afghan gowns for the bride and her party was that there were no "bare shoulders", "bare backs" or "bare arms". Almost like an Orthodox Jewish wedding ~ except this was just a betrothment, and that takes the place of the "show up in costume part".

No, none of these girls grew up on a steady diet of burqas, but they definitely went "large" with the gowns which are as heavy and stuffy as anything found in Christian services.

39 posted on 05/09/2008 10:50:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Incorrigible

Maybe. Manlius Pebble Hill is a very exclusive private school.


40 posted on 05/09/2008 10:50:57 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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