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Vanity: McCain is a radical, not a conservative
February 3, 2008 | Jabba The Nutt

Posted on 02/03/2008 10:04:31 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt

I'm just going to focus on one issue and what McCain wants to do. That issue is immigration and this one issue alone is enough to prove that McCain is a radical. That McCain wants to radically transform America in a way that warms the cockles of Ted Kennedy's heart. McCain's active support for “immigration reform” excludes him from consideration for support by any non-leftwing, multi-culti, destroy America person. That means neither conservatives, nor Republicans, nor moderates, nor mainstream Democrats, nor Black Americans should consider voting for the Radical McCain.

The agreed upon number of illegal immigrants in America is around 20 million. The McCain-Kennedy Immigration “Reform” would allow family re-unification for the amnestied, newly legalized and newly documented fellow Americans. That means an estimated 60 million additional legal immigrants would be admitted to the US under McCain's plan, which if you oppose, you're a racist. 80 million, mostly Spanish-speaking legal immigrants will flood into the US.

The McCain-Kennedy “Reform” will do nothing to secure the borders. With newly legalized immigrants, a market will still remain open for illegal aliens to come in and do the jobs Americans, ie the newly legalized, will not do. What will the number of new illegal immigrants be? Who knows?

McCain claims that “he” will not pay the amnestied, just counting the 20 million, Social Security or Welfare or whatever. McCain is lying. First, he won't be making that decision. I remember Prop. 187 in California, which forbade the payment of government benefits to illegal immigrants. It was thrown out by liberal judges. Arizona's own Prop. 200 was gutted. Does McCain really believe what he says? I don't know. Is he a fool, who believes Teddy Kennedy or doesn't he care or is this part of his radical plan to transform America?

McCain has also been a force for Bilingual Education. The theory of bilingual education is to teach kids in their native language, until they learn English, that way they keep up in their subjects with their English-speaking fellow students. The reality of Bilingual Education is to create and keep kids growing up in America in a Spanish-language speech ghetto. This makes it easier for the Ethnic Politicians to keep “Their” people in line and voting for them, no matter how destructive this is. Bilingualism has been a McCain cause going back over two decades.

McCain has also opposed making English the official language and programs for teaching English to immigrants to enable them full access to America and helping them become Americans and lose their attachments to the Old Country.

What will be the results of McCain's radical vision for immigration “reform”, whether he intends this or not? We already have Reconquista movements in this country to create a new Spanish-speaking nation made out of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, etc. McCain's action has the potential to create a Quebec within America. We'll become not a Constitution-based society, founded on Anglo-Saxon common law and adversary political culture. We will become a multi-cultural, two language country, if it stays together, where one culture is Spanish-speaking with a Patron-client political culture. That's the pay off for McCain and the politicians, they won't have to deal with pesky, recalcitrant voters, they'll just use the Welfare State monies to pay off their clients, who intend will support the politicians, no matter how corrupt, how incompetent or how destructive they are.

McCain, with just one bill, wants to radically transform America into something else. It'll be a kind of hybrid Mexamerica. We see this type of society throughout Latin America. If you want this transformation, vote for McCain. You can call this proposal a lot of things, but one thing you can't call it, is conservative, or moderate or even liberal. In many ways, this proposal is beyond politics, it is the destruction of America as America has been since the founding.

So, McCainiacs, I hope you will now stop with your nonsense, that McCain is “really” a conservative in the same line as Ronald Reagan. McCain is profoundly dangerous to the future of America. If he's elected, he brings a number of Republicans with him to join the Democrats. If a Democrat wins, at least Republicans will have a better chance at a united opposition.

Huckabee voters: A vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain. Is that vote for Huckabee worth the threat that McCain represents. Freepers have problems with Huckabee, who's no conservative, but he's also no Radical. What represents a greater threat to Evangelicals, a Mormon President, or a President of Mexamerica?


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KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; elections; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mccain; mccaintruthfile; radical; rino; romney
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To: AuntB
If McCain is so sure he is a winner he would resign the Senate immediately as would Hillary.... He and she can’t be keeping their sabbatical elected positions out of certainty.
41 posted on 02/03/2008 10:53:11 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Admin Moderator
Newbie, possible troll alert....mods can decide whether to ZOT.

Admin, she joined FR yesterday...POSSIBLY “a77” in another guise.

What's the problem with me? Just as much as I am not you, I am not the person you believe me to be, nor am I that person you insist on making me out to be. Stop now, please.

42 posted on 02/03/2008 10:53:14 AM PST by moderate_conservative
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To: Jabba the Nutt

McCain’t


43 posted on 02/03/2008 10:54:42 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (This site has been invaded by trolls!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Um, yes McCain is pro amnesty. Bush is pro amnesty. Hillary is pro amnesty. Obama is pro amnesty. Romney is not, good for him, but isn't going to win this year. By all means, break a lance and vote for him in the primary, and hope for the best. But when he loses - primary or general - we will get all amnesty pols left, in office or offered for the general. At which point your opposition to amnesty pols becomes moot. You can sit out or throw your vote away on a fringe candidate to make a statement, or you can vote for this or that pro amnesty pol. If the last, you will have to decide on something other than amnesty, because they are all going to be for it.

70 or 80% of the people are against illegal immigration. But pols covering 75% of the political spectrum (from Bush leftward) are for it. The reason for the difference is the pols are playing to a future electorate they expect to see, not to the present one. You don't have to like this for it to be true. But the result is that no one actually willing to articulate the majority preference against illegal immigration, can win national office. To side with us on that point, they have to be so far right on a host of other issues, they can't win a general election.

The way to stop amnesty anyway is to use congress, not the presidency. Individual house districts represent not the future median voter nationwide, but the present (2 year horizon) one within each district. It should therefore be possible to get enough of them beholden to the present median voter in anti-amnesty districts, and to hold their feet to the fire on the critical votes, to block actual passage of amnesty. We aren't going to get that by having an anti-amnesty president, this time around.

I'd rather have president Thompson. But those are the political realities of the situation, this year.

44 posted on 02/03/2008 10:54:50 AM PST by JasonC
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To: XeniaSt

Had to steal your poster


45 posted on 02/03/2008 10:58:07 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: AuntB
OHHHH the phone lines are burning in MO.... just got another call from some gal asking three question....1. Who will I vote for Tuesday: 2. Who was my second choice: and 3. What issue was I most concerned with.... listed economy, Iraq, and immigration .... pushed number 3 with that question and then the gal says this was paid for McCain.... lol I did not hear John McCain saying I approve this call....
46 posted on 02/03/2008 11:01:06 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: org.whodat
Please Do !

47 posted on 02/03/2008 11:01:33 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redheemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Just mythoughts

“If McCain is so sure he is a winner he would resign the Senate immediately as would Hillary...”

No kidding! All McCain has done in the last 8 years is run for president, push amnesty and investigate drugs in baseball. How anyone supports him after abusing his senate seat like this is beyond me.


48 posted on 02/03/2008 11:11:16 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: thefactor
Let me try to explain it. An elected McCain, who is well-known for his pro-illegal immigration views, as a premier leader, will enable the MSM declare a McCain mandate for his "reform". Just as the MSM declared the '06 congressional election was about the War in Iraq afterwards.

Cowardly, weak-minded Republican elected officials will do the cowardly, weak-minded thing and support McCain on his radical transformation plan. The bandwagon effect will push it thru against the will of the American People.

McCain will be able to argue that his way is the future of the Republican Party and will pull enough Republicans over to give cover to the Dem's to push this through.

Having a Democrat President to oppose on this, will take away the bi-partisanship (both parties screw Americans) and make it a Democrat play. Republicans can then reach out to moderate Democrats and Black Americans, who are already being hurt by illegal immigration.

It would be impossible to go up against a newly elected Republican President and kill this plan.

49 posted on 02/03/2008 11:12:58 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: RightWhale

McCain still isn’t a radical conservative. He’s just a radical.


50 posted on 02/03/2008 11:14:05 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

A person can’t be just a radical. He must be a radical something or nothing at all.


51 posted on 02/03/2008 11:16:13 AM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: sam_paine

Are you serious or joking? Nobody wants more vanities. I wrote and posted this, because I haven’t seen anyone put it together, about what McCain is attempting to do with the combination of open borders, amnesty, family re-unification, pro-bilingualism and anti-English. Once you put that package together, you get MexAmerica. It won’t be your father’s America.


52 posted on 02/03/2008 11:20:36 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: RightWhale

If we stay home next November what happens to the conservative candidates (and even a few Republicans) who are in tight elections or re-elections. I may not vote for McCain, but I know who is running against Susan Collins-Tom Allen, a fellow Rhodes Scholar with Bill. So stay at home we don’t get just Hillary-we get Clinton Clones.


53 posted on 02/03/2008 11:21:49 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: kabar

Gee, thanks, Kabar. It’s worse than I said. At least, I’m not being radical about it.


54 posted on 02/03/2008 11:22:55 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Revolting cat!
More cowbell?

You've got it.

55 posted on 02/03/2008 11:27:56 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
It won’t be your father’s America.

Wrong.

This IS our father's and grandfather's America.

50% of the electorate voted for Kerry and Gore...hello?

The Great Society baby boomers sure as he!! got us here with the socialist public schools and Nightly News soundbites.

MCCAIN VS HILLARY IS YOUR FATHERS AMERICA. We started losing this election 20 years ago when Reagan gave us Establishment Candidate GHW Bush.

56 posted on 02/03/2008 11:28:58 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RightWhale

OK, he’s a radical multi-culturalist. Feel better?


57 posted on 02/03/2008 11:32:49 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

You are far from being radical. Unfortunately, most of the American people are woefully uneducated about immigration and its impact. They have swollowed the liberal pap that immigration is an unqualified good. The politicians like it that way, but their spin only goes so far. Eventually, the people will wake up, but it might be too late.


58 posted on 02/03/2008 11:33:25 AM PST by kabar
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To: Jabba the Nutt; moderate_conservative
McCain campaign get out the vote workers

>You’ll vote for McCain, since the Rat’s nominee will be Hitlery

Dream on.

59 posted on 02/03/2008 11:34:35 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: Maine Mariner
I think by 'staying home', people mean they won't vote for President or will vote Third Party. Presidential elections traditionally drive up the number of voters. Having an anti-Republican base candidate for President will naturally drive down the number of Republicans voting.

This may actually be an attractive idea to get Republican-voters to the polls, ignore the Presidency, but be sure to vote for your Senate and House candidates. If there's a GOP blow out lower down the ticket, you have only the top line candidate to blame; McCain.

I still don't know, who is voting for McCain and why. I've yet to read a coherent argument for McCain.

60 posted on 02/03/2008 11:37:26 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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