Posted on 02/03/2008 10:04:31 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt
Immigration will be taken off the table in the general election if McCain is the nominee. And you can bet that there will be a tidal wave of illegals who will try to get here before amnesty is passed. As soon as McCain is known to be the Rep nominee, the land rush will start because then it doesn’t matter who the nominee is for the Dems. Both parties will pass amnesty. All of this will start before there is any security at the border.
Why hasn’t Romney pounded him on this issue? This is the way to defeat McCain. You can’t just say McCain is weak on immigration, you have to paint the picture of what McCain wants for America. Then ask people, if that is what they want. If they vote McCain, that is what they will get. This would help Romney shore up his conservative credentials and knock down McCain. He’s had months to do this. Why hasn’t Romney or Thompson or even Hunter or Tancredo done this? I don’t get it.
I let the mods decide; they've been around longer than I to make those decisions. I merely alert them to possible newbie trolls, and I won't stop being on the lookout for them.
Hey Sam, when someone joined one day ago, calls herself a moderate conservative and begins shilling for what MOST here on FR consider a RINO, I’ll happily alert the mods.
*Woman in Name Only
Kinda resembles you, doesn’t it, newbie?
Huh? I don’t get that one. Sorry.
What happened - you get bored over at WAnkers? What was your previous screenname?
The data is there. If something isn't done, this country is going down the tubes. Even legal immigration will destroy us if it is not reined in. We are going to be a nation of half a billion in about 50 years. In just 23 years, we will gain 62 million more people, most of it from immigration, legal and illegal. It is the equivlent of almost the population of the UK. This at a time when our number of retirees will double to almost 78 million. We can't assimilate these kinds of numbers. We are going to be Balkanized along cultural and linguistic lines. And then there are issues like enegry independence, infrastructure, pollution, etc. We are going to have to run to stand still.
That is true. The top national ticket might not be so wonderful but local and State elections and questions will also appear, and those are grassroots vital. No one should be sitting it out.
Maybe, but he isn't.
A major problem with negative advertising is that while it may effective at discouraging people from voting for your main opponent, it's far less effective at getting them to vote for you. People don't want to vote for candidates that make them feel bad. Prior to the McCain-Feingold abomination, outsider issue ads could serve a useful purpose here. Perhaps today they still can, but it's harder.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's time to set up a 527 to publish the truth about John McCain before Super Tuesday.
I feel the same as you do. One’s entire life cannot be determined by one moment. I respect him for his service just like all the military. His temper gives me reason to caution in considering him for President. But I can’t stand anyone who can throw one’s spouse away like garbage for a better life. I heard she was sick, I would like to know more about her. McCain is more like Rudi and you see how Rudi has done. Neither one of them have any respect for conservatives.
She looked after his kids and kept the home fires burning.
She was in a bad car accident which left her disabled. It changed her appearance, making her shorter with a pronounced limp. Her confinement and lack of activity led to weight gain. So the woman he found when he got off the plane wasn't the woman he left behind.
Cindy is an heiress of a liquor distributorship, very glossy "lemon tart, social Xray" as Tom Wolfe would say...blonde 18 yrs younger than John. Her daddy fronted McCain for his first runs at the House and Senate.
One of the reasons John dumped Carol is that she had gained weight. That's just going to go over really well, don't you think? People around here think women don't notice and don't vote.
Senator McCain, by his own admission, has backed away from this proposal. He supports building a wall and says that the borders must be secured first - and remember he will have a totally different constituency as President than as a maverick senator from Arizona. And don’t forget that even in a Democratic Congress, President Bush who supported McCain’s proposal, couldn’t get it passed.
And is this his only yardstick of conservatism? The man is not running as a maverick but as a CONSERVATIVE! You guys treat Mitt Romney (who in late 2005 was rated by NRO as one of America’s top 10 RINOs - and McCain wasn’t on that list) as a conservative savior, but you seem to forget that he’s flip-flopped on almost everything.
What about the fact that Mr. McCain openly supports overturning Roe v. Wade, opposes gay rights (pretty consistent record on that in the Senate), openly now supports extending the tax cuts and is probably the most pro-military and pro-Iraq candidate running? How on earth does this make him equal to Hillary Clinton?
Conservatives who suffer angst over Mr. McCain, please get over yourselves. We all have a pretty good idea of what’s going to happen tomorrow and it would serve everyone better if we, rather than cut our noses off to spite our faces (like Ann Coulter), let’s rather put conservative pressure on Senator McCain to honor his conservative promises as President. If you’re willing to give RINO Romney a chance, you should also be willing to John McCain a chance, too.
Hear, hear!
Let me me answer a few of these attacks:
“McCain’s the candidate of amnesty for illegal aliens.”
Senator McCain, by his own admission, has backed away from this proposal. He now supports securing the borders first and he learned the hard way that his bill was not the answer. Shouldn’t we allow him to learn from this mistake? He suffered hugely for this silly position.
“McCain supports embryonic stem-cell research.” Yes but he’s now wavering on it, saying that he’s struggling with still supporting it. Weak I know, but still less solid than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.
“McCain has said “I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade”.” So did Romney. And McCain contradicted himself when he said this back in 1999/2000 and later said he did support overturning it (as I understand it). He now has cleared this up and openly and unequivocally supports the overturning of Roe v. Wade and strongly states this on his website.
“McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and refuses to sign the “No New Taxes” pledge.” He opposed the tax cuts originally but neutral observers have pointed it out that it probably had more to do with his disagreements with President Bush than with actually disapproving of the tax breaks. Senator McCain openly endorses extending these tax cuts now that the economy is in a worse shape.
“McCain supports legislation that would increase taxes on energy.” I don’t contest this. Every candidate has a weak point.
“McCain was the ring-leader of the Senate “Gang of 14”, which kept the then Senate Republican leadership from ending the ability of Democrats to filibuster Bush’s judicial nominees.” If we have a Democratic president, we will be thanking Senator McCain he didn’t allow it to happen. He strongly supported Roberts and Alito and I remember him voicing strong support for Alito on the Senate floor shortly after his nomination. McCain promises to appoint people to the Supreme Court like Roberts and Alito.
“McCain supports legislation to grant due-process rights to terrorists.” It would seem that McCain’s anti-torture positions are rooted in the fact that he was tortured as a prisoner in Vietnam. And it doesn’t sound like a very winning position to say that we support torture. McCain’s strong pro-Iraq War positions clearly outweigh this.
“McCain called evangelical-conservatives an “evil influence” on the Republican Party.” And Mitt Romney said a long time ago that he didn’t want to bring the Reagan-Bush era back. Since this time, McCain has repudiated such comments and openly embraces evangelicals. He went and gave a big speech at Jerry Falwell’s university and has gone out of his way to identify with them. Don’t some people change their positions after they say stupid things?
“McCain had a recall election ran against him by the conservatives in Arizona.” And did it go anywhere? Apparently, Ronald Reagan also had a recall initiative against him when he was Governor of California.
What many conservatives are forgetting is that people can change their positions. We can go through and find lots of things that Ronald Reagan did that would make us angry: signing amnesty in 1986, appointing waffles like O’Connor and Kennedy to SCOTUS when he should have known better, granting clemency to a death row inmate, raising taxes in California, saying that homosexuals have a constitutional right to teach children in public schools and so on.
Bottom line: if Senator McCain is our nominee, let’s not reject him, but rather put strong pressure on him to honor his conservative promises.
Hmmm, by his own admission, even. Well, that settles it. I'm for McCain.
Actually, last week, by his own admission, McCain said he would sign McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Act, if Congress put it on his desk as President.
Second, John McCain has as his Hispanic Outreach Director, one Dr. Juan Hernandez. Go over to MichelleMalkin.com to learn all about Dr. Hernandez. Let's just say, Dr. Hernandez isn't exactly for securing the border.
Third, John McCain says he saw the light about securing the borders about 6 months ago. What has he done to secure the border as a major, powerful, Senator, with feet on both sides of the aisle and great relationships with such luminaries as Teddy Kennedy, Russ Feingold, Joe Lieberman and John Edwards? What has he done?
So, you're going to believe John McCain or your lying eyes?
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