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Vanity: McCain is a radical, not a conservative
February 3, 2008 | Jabba The Nutt

Posted on 02/03/2008 10:04:31 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt

I'm just going to focus on one issue and what McCain wants to do. That issue is immigration and this one issue alone is enough to prove that McCain is a radical. That McCain wants to radically transform America in a way that warms the cockles of Ted Kennedy's heart. McCain's active support for “immigration reform” excludes him from consideration for support by any non-leftwing, multi-culti, destroy America person. That means neither conservatives, nor Republicans, nor moderates, nor mainstream Democrats, nor Black Americans should consider voting for the Radical McCain.

The agreed upon number of illegal immigrants in America is around 20 million. The McCain-Kennedy Immigration “Reform” would allow family re-unification for the amnestied, newly legalized and newly documented fellow Americans. That means an estimated 60 million additional legal immigrants would be admitted to the US under McCain's plan, which if you oppose, you're a racist. 80 million, mostly Spanish-speaking legal immigrants will flood into the US.

The McCain-Kennedy “Reform” will do nothing to secure the borders. With newly legalized immigrants, a market will still remain open for illegal aliens to come in and do the jobs Americans, ie the newly legalized, will not do. What will the number of new illegal immigrants be? Who knows?

McCain claims that “he” will not pay the amnestied, just counting the 20 million, Social Security or Welfare or whatever. McCain is lying. First, he won't be making that decision. I remember Prop. 187 in California, which forbade the payment of government benefits to illegal immigrants. It was thrown out by liberal judges. Arizona's own Prop. 200 was gutted. Does McCain really believe what he says? I don't know. Is he a fool, who believes Teddy Kennedy or doesn't he care or is this part of his radical plan to transform America?

McCain has also been a force for Bilingual Education. The theory of bilingual education is to teach kids in their native language, until they learn English, that way they keep up in their subjects with their English-speaking fellow students. The reality of Bilingual Education is to create and keep kids growing up in America in a Spanish-language speech ghetto. This makes it easier for the Ethnic Politicians to keep “Their” people in line and voting for them, no matter how destructive this is. Bilingualism has been a McCain cause going back over two decades.

McCain has also opposed making English the official language and programs for teaching English to immigrants to enable them full access to America and helping them become Americans and lose their attachments to the Old Country.

What will be the results of McCain's radical vision for immigration “reform”, whether he intends this or not? We already have Reconquista movements in this country to create a new Spanish-speaking nation made out of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, etc. McCain's action has the potential to create a Quebec within America. We'll become not a Constitution-based society, founded on Anglo-Saxon common law and adversary political culture. We will become a multi-cultural, two language country, if it stays together, where one culture is Spanish-speaking with a Patron-client political culture. That's the pay off for McCain and the politicians, they won't have to deal with pesky, recalcitrant voters, they'll just use the Welfare State monies to pay off their clients, who intend will support the politicians, no matter how corrupt, how incompetent or how destructive they are.

McCain, with just one bill, wants to radically transform America into something else. It'll be a kind of hybrid Mexamerica. We see this type of society throughout Latin America. If you want this transformation, vote for McCain. You can call this proposal a lot of things, but one thing you can't call it, is conservative, or moderate or even liberal. In many ways, this proposal is beyond politics, it is the destruction of America as America has been since the founding.

So, McCainiacs, I hope you will now stop with your nonsense, that McCain is “really” a conservative in the same line as Ronald Reagan. McCain is profoundly dangerous to the future of America. If he's elected, he brings a number of Republicans with him to join the Democrats. If a Democrat wins, at least Republicans will have a better chance at a united opposition.

Huckabee voters: A vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain. Is that vote for Huckabee worth the threat that McCain represents. Freepers have problems with Huckabee, who's no conservative, but he's also no Radical. What represents a greater threat to Evangelicals, a Mormon President, or a President of Mexamerica?


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To: Jabba the Nutt

I think McCain is the best of what is left. I don’t look forward to voting for him which I won’t in the primary nor will I vote for Romney or Huckabee. I do think people should consider voting to split the vote among the remaining three. Give your vote to Huckabee in Georgia and Alambama not because you love him or like him but because it will remove those states from Romney and McCain. I think the same should be done for Romney. Where he is stronger rally to his side so to keep states out of McCain and Huckabee’s column.

Whether or not I vote for McCain in the general election which I hope is not something I will have to consider but if I do then it will be his choice of VP and his choice of words going into the general election. They all sicken me. The Reagan library debate was a horrid display mediocrity and democrat speak. Is it just me or do all these candidates sound so small and empty? They are still talking about all the things the government can do for us when the government has did far too much already.


21 posted on 02/03/2008 10:27:09 AM PST by Maelstorm ("Christ didn’t tell us to go to the government...He told us to do it." Fred Thompson)
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To: thefactor
"...how will obama’s/hillary’s immigration reform look any different from mccain’s?"

I think they will all be so similar you won't be able to tell them apart.

Democrats will support any pro-illegal immigration bill.

And RINO's will support Hillary and/or Obama just as quickly as they would support McCain on immigration reform as long as it is pro-illegal.

So the only difference between Hillary/Obama and McCain is that with McCain as president almost all republicans (not only RINO's) will roll over for him and approve his immigration reform without a wimper.

Face it - republicans will not oppose a republican president unless they absolutely have to.

With Hillary or Obama as president, republicans who are not Bush style neo-cons or RINO's will fight immigration reform tooth and nail.

22 posted on 02/03/2008 10:27:20 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

more vanities pleeeeeeaaaase!


23 posted on 02/03/2008 10:28:08 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“We should be used to radicals by now.”

Or fed up with them, more likely.


24 posted on 02/03/2008 10:28:09 AM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

No doubt.


25 posted on 02/03/2008 10:28:57 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Recovering_Democrat; moderate_conservative
Newbie, possible troll alert....mods can decide whether to ZOT.

Ugh! Yikes. Yikes. Yikes!

Someone may upset the standing waves in the FR echo chamber! AhhhhhhhhHh noooooooooo!

Sheesh.

26 posted on 02/03/2008 10:31:30 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: moderate_conservative

27 posted on 02/03/2008 10:31:36 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redheemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Thanks very much for posting this! I can only hope it will get through the self-deluding people who still seek to make us all drink the McChurian Candidate’s Kool-Aid.


28 posted on 02/03/2008 10:34:25 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: moderate_conservative
You’ll vote form McCain, since the Rat’s nominee will be Hitlery.

And you'd vote for Hillary if she just had an 'R' by her name, wouldn't you? 'Cause, baby, that 'R' is the only difference between the McChurian Candidate and Her Royal Heinous.

29 posted on 02/03/2008 10:35:42 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Actually, according to Robert Rector, The Hertiage Foundation, the number of LEGAL immigrants who would enter via chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would be 66 million, and that number was predicated on their being 12 million illegal aliens and Rector was analyzing the 2006 Senate bill [S 2611] that passed but died in the House. If there are 20 million like the 2005 Bear-Stearns Report posits, the number of new legal residents of this country would be easily over 100 million, And this is on top of the 1.2 million legal immigrants who come in annually.

The 2007 McCain-Kennedy bill would have made virtual every illegal alien here legal [unlike the 2006 bill that required that you be here for two years], which means that the numbers coming in via chain migration would be even higher. If amnesty passes, this country is finished. Yet McCain, Obama, and Hillary will do just that.

30 posted on 02/03/2008 10:38:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: Astronaut; moderate_conservative
Astro. You nailed it. McCain will leave the GOP in shambles for decades if elected. Hillary will unite the GOP like never before and in 4 years convince the other 50% that she is evil personified, issuing in another "contract with American." The SCOTUS will not be touched with Hillary for 4 years since she would replace LIBS with LIBS.

Waiting 4 years is a hell of lot better than casting lots with a POS like McCain.

If McCain gets the nod, I'm with Ann. Hillary could do more for the GOP in 4 years than McCain would do in a lifetime (not to mention the fact that he was a member of THE GANG OF 14) that took it upon themselves to decide the will of the people. I don't ever asking McCain to pick a moderate judge for me and I look forward to returning the favor.

31 posted on 02/03/2008 10:39:05 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Whatever happened to No Neck Joe?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Not enough cowbell, not enough McCain’t threads!


32 posted on 02/03/2008 10:40:10 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
You're no real McCain Johnnie Boy!


33 posted on 02/03/2008 10:40:15 AM PST by wardaddy (Political Correctness is to Western Culture what the Aids virus is to the cake community)
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To: moderate_conservative
"You’ll vote form McCain, since the Rat’s nominee will be Hitlery."

Under no circumstances will I vote for McCain, regardless of who the 'rats nominee is. I am on no political party's plantation.

However, I will not leave the ballot for President blank. I'll vote 3rd party (Constitution, probably) so the Republicans can tally how many Conservative votes they lost by nominating a socialist for president.

I am fully prepared to pull down the Pillars of the Temple.

34 posted on 02/03/2008 10:42:00 AM PST by 10mm
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To: Jabba the Nutt
McCain


35 posted on 02/03/2008 10:43:06 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Whatever happened to No Neck Joe?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Amnesty is the number one reason I won’t vote for McCain. There are other issues, but that’s the most important one.


36 posted on 02/03/2008 10:44:29 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
If Hitlery or Muzzie gets in we will get amnesty with them too.
37 posted on 02/03/2008 10:46:17 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

BTTT


38 posted on 02/03/2008 10:50:20 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Jabba the Nutt; All

The John McCain Truth Files

Capitol Hill staffers rate their bosses.
McCain got no glory from those who work with him.
“Every election year we survey top aides on both sides of the aisle—administrative assistants, press secretaries, legislative directors, and chiefs of committee staffs—to get their up-close and personal, and anonymous, views. While there may be lots of partisan backbiting among congress members, their staffers seem far more capable of putting politics aside and making honest judgments. It wasn’t unusual for aides in both parties to name one of their own as “spineless” or give the “workhorse” nod to someone across the aisle. “

Worst Follower 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Show Horse 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Hottest Temper 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) known to snap at staff when the cameras are off
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/1666.html

McCain’s the candidate of amnesty for illegal aliens.
McCain supports embryonic stem-cell research.
McCain has said “I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade”.
McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and refuses to sign the “No New Taxes” pledge.
McCain supports legislation that would increase taxes on energy.
McCain was the ring-leader of the Senate “Gang of 14”, which kept the then Senate Republican leadership from ending the ability of Democrats to filibuster Bush’s judicial nominees.
McCain supports legislation to grant due-process rights to terrorists.
McCain sponsored the inept legislation which restricts free-speech rights of those involved
in the political process, (the McCain/Feingold bill)
McCain called evangelical-conservatives an “evil influence” on the Republican Party.
McCain - member of the Keating 5 that caused a bipartisan scandal during the S&L meltdown.
McCain had a recall election ran against him by the conservatives in Arizona.
McCain blocked the investigation into whether Viet Nam and the Soviets were still holding over 600 of our missing POWs in 1990.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1958293/posts?page=52#52

Latest (Jan. 2008) OVERALL Presidential Candidate Ratings On IMMIGRATION
How Good Are The Promises of Each Candidate to PROTECT Workers, Communities and Taxpayers FROM ILLEGAL & OVER-IMMIGRATION?

VERY GOOD# Mitt Romney (28 points)
GOOD# RON PAUL(24 points) # MIKE HUCKABEE(24 points)
POOR# RUDY GIULIANI(7 points)
BAD# JOHN McCAIN (5 points) # JOHN EDWARDS (5 points) # HILLARY CLINTON (4 points) # BARACK OBAMA (4 points)

Please note that our ratings do NOT amount to endorsements. Nor do they convey anything about the character, the strength or any other positions about the candidates. http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez2008.html

THE McCAIN WAY - ATTACK REPUBLICANS

Defending His Amnesty Bill, “Presidential hopeful John McCain - who has been dogged for years by questions about his volcanic temper - erupted in an angry, profanity-laced tirade at a fellow Republican senator, sources told The Post yesterday. In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed, ‘F— you!’ at Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who had been raising concerns about the legislation. ‘This is chickens—stuff,’ McCain snapped at Cornyn, according to several people in the room off the Senate floor Thursday. ‘You’ve always been against this bill, and you’re just trying to derail it.’” (Charles Hurt, “Raising McCain,” New York Post, 5/19/07)

In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton. SEN. MCCAIN: “I guess it was bound to happen. Governor Bush’s campaign is getting desperate, with a negative ad about me. The fact is, I’ll use the surplus money to fix Social Security, cut your taxes and pay down the debt. Governor Bush uses all of the surplus for tax cuts, with not one new penny for Social Security or the debt. His ad twists the truth like Clinton. We’re all pretty tired of that. As president, I’ll be conservative and always tell you the truth. No matter what.” (McCain 2000, Campaign Ad, 2/9/00; www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoXkCprdL4)

Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) nams. “Why can’t McCain win the votes of his own colleagues? To explain, a Republican senator tells this story: at a GOP meeting last fall, McCain erupted out of the blue at the respected Budget Committee chairman, Pete Domenici, saying, ‘Only an a–hole would put together a budget like this.’ Offended, Domenici stood up and gave a dignified, restrained speech about how in all his years in the Senate, through many heated debates, no one had ever called him that. Another senator might have taken the moment to check his temper. But McCain went on: ‘I wouldn’t call you an a–hole unless you really were an a–hole.’ The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. ‘I decided,’ the senator told Newsweek, ‘I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.’” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A “F*cking Jerk.” “Senators are not used to having their intelligence or integrity challenged by another senator. ‘Are you calling me stupid?’ Sen. Chuck Grassley once inquired during a debate with McCain over the fate of the Vietnam MIAs, according to a source who was present. ‘No,’ replied McCain, ‘I’m calling you a f—ing jerk!” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A “Scuffle” With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor. “In January 1995, McCain was midway through an opening statement at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing when chairman Strom Thurmond asked, ‘Is the senator about through?’ McCain glared at Thurmond, thanked him for his ‘courtesy’ (translation: buzz off), and continued on. McCain later confronted Thurmond on the Senate floor. A scuffle ensued, and the two didn’t part friends.” (Harry Jaffe, “Senator Hothead,” The Washingtonian, 2/97)

Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign. MCCAIN: “Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore. … The political tactics of division and slander are not our values… They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country. Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.” (Sen. John McCain, Remarks, Virginia Beach, VA, 2/28/00)

Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Volunteer. “It was election night 1986, John McCain had just been elected to the U.S. Senate for the first time. Even so, he was not in a good mood. McCain was yelling at the top of his lungs and poking the chest of a young volunteer who had set up a lectern that was too tall for the 5-foot-9 politician to be seen to advantage, according to a witness to the outburst. ‘Here this poor guy is thinking he has done a good job, and he gets a new butt ripped because McCain didn’t look good on television,’ Jon Hinz told a reporter Thursday. At the time, Hinz was executive director of the Arizona Republican Party. … ‘There were an awful lot of people in the room,’ Hinz recalled. ‘You’d have to stick cotton in your ears not to hear it. He (McCain) was screaming at him, and he was red in the face.’” (Kris Mayes and Charles Kelly, “Stories Surface On Senator’s Demeanor,” The Arizona Republic, 11/5/99)

Sen. McCain “Publicly Abused” Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL). “[McCain] noted his propensity for passion but insisted that he doesn’t ‘insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that.’ This is, quite simply, hogwash. McCain often insults people and flies off the handle…. There have been the many times McCain has called reporters ‘liars’ and ‘idiots’ when they have had the audacity to ask him unpleasant, but pertinent, questions. ” (Editorial, “There’s Something About McCain,” The Austin American-Statesman, 1/24/07)

Is it any wonder McCain has few endorsements from his Congressional piers? http://thehill.com/endorsements-2008.html

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/


39 posted on 02/03/2008 10:51:29 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: Maelstorm

McCain? NEVER!

Better to have Hitlery; at least when SHE runs the country into the ground the Dems will take the blame.

McCain IS a liberal Democrat. He nearly changed parties twice.

Why is this not being publicized?


40 posted on 02/03/2008 10:51:56 AM PST by kjo
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