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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1~ Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 05/03/2007 3:19:11 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1 – Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread



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KEYWORDS: brownback; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; gilmore; giuliani; huckabee; hunter; jimgilmore; johnmccain; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; paul; presidentialdebate; reagan; reaganlibrary; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; sambrownback; tancredo; thompson; tommythompson; tomtancredo
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To: Cicero

The post was about who won the debate. The answer is clear. Mitt won the debate. Which candidate Peggy Noonon supports is not my concern. Seems like just yesterday everyone had labeled her a RINO and a turncoat.


2,561 posted on 05/04/2007 8:59:03 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: brazzaville; All

Oops.

sorry for the double post.


2,562 posted on 05/04/2007 9:00:03 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville
Do you mean Mitt, The Life Long Hunter?

Hey, that's "The Lifelong Rodent Hunter"!

Actually, he made me laugh with that little speech. Clearly, the man just has had very little involvement with hunting or any experience of personal defense with firearms. Someone needs to take him down to a range and teach him how to shoot a handgun and give him copies of John Lott's books on the merits of CCW and handgun ownership, point out to him how important it is for women and the elderly to have firearms to protect themselves against thugs. That Mitt is a quick study if he's anything.

Mitt got the NRA endorsement when he ran. He's taken out a lifetime NRA membership more recently.

Let's trust the NRA-ILA to know what they're doing, at least for now. They have a lot of experience in picking the best electable pro-gun candidates. Their great CCW success in the states and that brilliant pick of the current NRA president show real political acumen that is only growing more sharp. I note that NRA is keeping their powder dry on Romney, knowing that he might be our most electable candidate and that we might do a deal with this Mormon businessman on respecting the Second. No doubt in my mind that NRA will unload with both barrels on the leftwing mayor, either directly or via state proxies. Romney? Wait and see is our watchword.

I want to hear what NRA says about him this fall. And what GOA/JPFO and other more radical (i.e. constitutionalist) RKBA's have to say.
2,563 posted on 05/04/2007 9:01:42 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: brazzaville
Rudi was pretty bad, wasn’t he.

He really did look like a mayoral candidate on a stage with presidential candidates. I thought he seemed unprepared, to be honest.

2,564 posted on 05/04/2007 9:01:58 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I believe we are set to have a clash of titans between Romney and Thompson. The others are done. And if Thompson can’t make up his mind then Romney will win by default.


2,565 posted on 05/04/2007 9:09:41 AM PDT by Capt. Cox (evangelicalsformitt.org)
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To: Reagan Man

60% may buy into the biased push polls that the big pollsters genrally use. When they asked the question a couple months back “do you want the US to win in Iraq”, even 50% of democrats said yes.

The polling groups have the same agenda as the MSM.


2,566 posted on 05/04/2007 9:11:27 AM PDT by pissant
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To: AuntB

I did.


2,567 posted on 05/04/2007 9:41:15 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: eyespysomething

REP. PAUL: I’m “no” because I am a strong supporter of the original intent.

MR. MATTHEWS: Oh, God.

http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=5562636


2,568 posted on 05/04/2007 10:10:33 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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It's unseemly that Chris Matthews
  1. got to run the debate and
  2. was provided with such a huge opportunity to make (biased) comments about the debaters
He was the personification of a one-two punch against Republicans.
2,569 posted on 05/04/2007 10:14:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Dems removed our troops too soon from S. Korea. 30,000 US troops died in 30 mos to RE-WIN SK freedom)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; Texas_Jarhead

REP. PAUL: I’m “no” because I am a strong supporter of the original intent.

MR. MATTHEWS: Oh, God.
http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=5562636


2,570 posted on 05/04/2007 10:20:11 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Capt. Cox
I believe we are set to have a clash of titans between Romney and Thompson. The others are done.

A lot of us have been thinking the same thing. The other candidates are hardly finished though. Several still have a good chance but it's getting dimmer. Giuliani can't crossover to the conservative base which will doom him even if nominated and his support will dry up as it becomes more apparent. And McStain will never be forgiven by the RKBA/pro-lifers and the Christian segments, all key GOP primary voters. That means that both must try to appeal to and therefore split the indy/liberal-crossover vote in the primaries.

BTW, welcome to FR.
2,571 posted on 05/04/2007 10:25:42 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: PghBaldy

Thanks for the ping. FReegards.


2,572 posted on 05/04/2007 10:26:43 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: bray

Yep. Making Ron Paul irrelevant, as usual.


2,573 posted on 05/04/2007 10:48:43 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
If it was just one poll showing that most Americans oppose the war, I might agree with you. But that is not the case.

So, you believe that a majority of Americans support the war in Iraq. Well fine. One problem with that opinion. The 2006 GOP election loss was primarily based on Americans not supporting the war. You can denounce polling data, but you can't deny the results of the election.

Back to the reason for all this. You gave kudos to Rooty for pointing out the term "islamic extremists" wasn't used in the earlier Democrat debate. I said it was insignificant and meaningless because most Democrats oppose the war anyway. I stick with that logic. Rooty scored no points with that one.

However, Rooty`s support for abortion was exposed in all its glory. His campaign took a big hit on that issue, revealing him for the liberal he's always been. With more to come.

2,574 posted on 05/04/2007 10:49:52 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Capitalism2003

If you say so, Murtha.


2,575 posted on 05/04/2007 10:50:06 AM PDT by pissant
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To: syriacus

He was, but it’s a credit to all the GOP candidates that they were there... especially when you contrast that with the Democrats’ gutless boycott of the Fox News debate.

All in all, the Republicans came out way ahead. Chrissy’s snarky comments and amateurish moderating skills just brought it that much more into focus.


2,576 posted on 05/04/2007 10:51:49 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Capitalism2003

Let’s see... we’ve got the obligatory regurgitation of non-specific MSM polls, an idiotic and historically ignorant Vietnam comparison, a tired Democratic buzz-phrase about the “status quo”, and a bold prediction about Republicans going down in flames. And you’ve got that really conservative sounding screen name, and the libertarian platform in your tag line.

Oh yeah, you’re definitely a Marxist.


2,577 posted on 05/04/2007 11:05:46 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Reagan Man

In addition, I thought Rudy looked pretty unpresidential in the debate, compared to Romney and Hunter and even McCain (who I loathe). His poor performance is pretty universally accepted on the right, from what I’ve read.

FWIW, one of our local radio talkers was very much pro-Rudy (fighter, cleaned up NY, etc). He said this AM that Rudy stunk....and just as importantly, that Hunter was the guy that suprised him with his style and stances.

The 2006 election was more than the Iraq war. The Dems fielded many “moderate” candidates, and most certainly did NOT run on “cut and run”; and most importantly, the GOP/RNC absolutely sucked for the last two years on giving Cheney and Bush ANY support on promoting the importance of the war. And even after that, the midterm losses were in a fairly normal range.


2,578 posted on 05/04/2007 11:07:00 AM PDT by pissant
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To: PghBaldy

Chrissy always shows his nasty school boy tactics.Does anyone know if this person was a bully in school or maybe he might have been bullied. He just seems to be so smarmy!


2,579 posted on 05/04/2007 11:40:05 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Guenevere

I was there in September of 2000. That’s a new feature to the Reagan Library they hadn’t completed when we visited.


2,580 posted on 05/04/2007 11:50:12 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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