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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1~ Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 05/03/2007 3:19:11 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

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To: jwalsh07

“My perspective is in focus. Sitting on your arse waiting for whackjobs to find ways to inflcit maximum damage on your fellow countrymen is a left wing nut position. I don’t like Rudy but he and President Bush are exactly right. Good offense is exponentially better than good defense.”

Arguing A) “Good offense is exponentially better than good defense” and even getting me to confirm its truth does not mean B) A pro-war Republican will be elected. The problem with far too many of the ten is that they are easily felled by corrupt logrolling charges—all that the left needs to make them appear part of the problem to conservatives sick of business as usual.

If you think Iraq is the only or primary issue in the 2008 election, you are delusional. It may be the most important issue, but if it were the only issue to conservatives, seems to me there’d be a lot more Republicans in Congress right now. The proof was in the last election—we want NATIONALIST, CONSTITUTIONALIST, Republicans to vote for, and if we don’t get them, we won’t buy the “must vote the lesser of two evils” line any more. That ship sailed when Mr. ‘Compassionate Conservative’ started collaborating with Teddy Kennedy.


2,621 posted on 05/05/2007 11:37:28 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (A government, for protecting business only...soon falls by its own corruption." Amos Alcott)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“If only it were somehow possible to squeeze that into the space allotted, I’d make that my new sig line in a nanosecond. ;)”

Check mine.


2,622 posted on 05/05/2007 11:51:00 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (If ‘He can win,’ is your first defense, obviously, that’s his one plus--not his conservatism.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Good morning.
“Who cares? He looked great.’

Absolutely. That’s just what I’m looking for in a world leader in war time.

How long until the primary?

Michael Frazier

2,623 posted on 05/05/2007 11:59:19 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: colorcountry

You still haven’t posted any facts, any proof. Just vague accusations and innuendo.

How does Mark Willes once being the top guy at the Times have anything whatsoever to do with Romney making his money handling the Church’s assets?

Answer: nothing. There is no connection. Romney has nothing to do with managing Church assets. I suspect you have no case, just a chip on your shoulder.


2,624 posted on 05/05/2007 3:21:32 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Don't let the Gang of Three (Pelosi, Reid, Hillary) fight the War on Terror.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Keep believing it.

The only reason I said anything was to combat this tripe that Romney is a self made man. He was born with a silver spoon and all the contacts personal, religious and business that come from having a daddy who is a big name in all three.

Of course so did George W. Bush, but no one was claiming he was “self-made.”


2,625 posted on 05/05/2007 3:32:20 PM PDT by colorcountry (An Honest Man will change his thoughts to match the truth and a Dishonest Man will change the truth)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Ultra Sonic 007

You left out Hunter’s clarity on China!


2,626 posted on 05/05/2007 7:49:49 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: brazzaville
You're talking to the wrong person. I personally don't care if the POTUS looks like Freddy Krueger from "A Nightmare on Elm Street":

I'm one of the 1% of Americans who actually care about the issues and substance.

2,627 posted on 05/05/2007 8:01:32 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: James W. Fannin

I don’t feel like watching the whole thing again or reading the entire transcipt for a second time.

Can you please do me a favor and give me the Readers Digest/ Cliff Note version.

What China comment are you referring to.

Thanks.


2,628 posted on 05/05/2007 8:14:37 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I'm one of the 1% of Americans who actually care about the issues and substance.

Uh-oh. One of the Dreaded Unappeasables!

How do you expect anyone to pander to you with a position like that?

"Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store."

What, you don't have such convenience stores where you live? Poor guy. Move to a real state.
2,629 posted on 05/05/2007 11:30:37 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Election Math For Dummies: GOP ÷ Rudi = Hillary)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Ultra Sonic 007
Here you are, sir:
REP. HUNTER: Chris, thanks very much. John's not the only guy with a defense background. I've been chairman of the Armed Services Committee for the last four years. I've helped to rebuild national defense. We have worked hard to make sure that our people have enough pay, that they've got the ammunition, that they've got the equipment, while at the same time looking over the horizon to look at the new threat of an emerging China and an Iran that is pursuing nuclear weapons and a Korea that already has some and is moving to get the means for delivery. So a strong national defense, the trademark of Ronald Reagan, is what I would pursue.

MR. VANDEHEI: Congressman Hunter, Ryan from Los Angeles wants you to name one thing that the federal government does really well and one thing that it does poorly.

REP. HUNTER: Yeah. Really well: precision munitions on Mr. Zarqawi's safe house. (Laughter.)

Really poorly: secure the border. Right now the border is 2,000 miles of a very porous area where hundreds of thousands of people come across on an annual basis. And last year we had 155,000 folks who came across from Mexico who were from other countries in the world -- some from Communist China, some from Iran, some from Korea. We have to secure the border. That's the biggest failure of the federal government.

REP. HUNTER: You know, we won World War II, World War I and the Cold War with a major industrial base. We're losing our industrial base through bad trade policy right now. China is cheating on trade. I would enforce trade laws. That's something that the president is not doing.
Source: iht.com (print format).
2,630 posted on 05/06/2007 5:41:53 AM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Good morning.
“I’m one of the 1% of Americans who actually care about the issues and substance.”

I’m sorry, I misunderstood your comments about Mitt’s polished appearance and Fred Thompson’s down home look to mean that you thought that mattered.

Personally, I’m still waiting for Newt but I’ll take Duncan Hunter.

Michael Frazier

2,631 posted on 05/06/2007 7:54:32 AM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

You’re welcome. I wish I hadn’t fallen asleep before the debate...


2,632 posted on 05/06/2007 11:31:10 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: brazzaville

Newt is done in my book. When he bent over for John Kerry in the supposed “Global Warming Debate” by saying he agreed with 60% of his book.

Newt is a lot smarter than me and probably thinks he can spin this into a Right Wing Green movement calling for nuclear power plants. Make the issue our own and solve it our way. I think I know where he is going. Environmental Judo. He better be a 4th degree Black Belt in the art form. he’s up against Bruce Lee backed by the Soviet Army.


2,633 posted on 05/06/2007 3:21:36 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Raquel

Chris Matthews showed his true lib colors. Interesting that he gave Giuliani another bite at the abortion question and Rudy proceeded to blow it. At least Matthews wasn’t spitting on people (as he did to Michelle Malkin).


2,634 posted on 05/07/2007 10:33:16 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
CNN:

Giuliani reiterates his support for public funding of abortions.

VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZe1j4csMq8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fblog%2Ethevanguard%2Eorg%2Fcategory%2Fchristianity%2F


2,635 posted on 05/08/2007 2:57:18 AM PDT by XR7
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To: juliej

After recent experience, I won’t be automatically voting Republican in national elections anymore, but Im still concerned that the country not revert to media-choice, by default. It appears the media will manipulate and obscure the Republican candidates by rolling out their favorite topic, abortion.

Sunday morning on ABC This Week w/George Snuffalopalus, Rep. Tom Tancredo, a man who has something to say on the immigration/borders issue, was barely allowed to speak on that important issue so that George could breathlessly inquire about...abortion, and not even some relevant aspect of the abortion issue. The ponderous arcane esoteric dimension. Something to keep his mouth moving. So, even while failing to shed any light on the abortion issue which you just know George is so interested in, he passed up on his opportunity to ask some really important questions of Tom Tancredo, which the audience would have enjoyed and been enlightened to hear.

Who hires these clowns like Chris Matthews and George Stuffalotafluf? The media is our biggest problem. You can turn off that TV and get a much better bang for your buck on the internet. These guys are no longer remotely credible. I much prefer listening to Alex Jones on his daily broadcast than the tired and predictable Limbaugh, too.


2,636 posted on 05/08/2007 6:21:38 AM PDT by RodneyPorter (the MEDIA is the problem)
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To: BillyBoy

Isn’t it the issues that matter?


2,637 posted on 05/08/2007 6:23:06 AM PDT by RodneyPorter (infowars dot com)
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To: RodneyPorter

chris Matthews time had come and gone and George Suffapoleupyourass is just another pretty boy.


2,638 posted on 05/08/2007 8:26:53 AM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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The Unit is on at 9 =(


2,639 posted on 05/15/2007 4:29:17 PM PDT by wastedyears (I was opposed to Rudy in the mid 1990s when he took my fireworks away. I was but a little boy.)
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Next debate...

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 - Columbia, SC 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread

2,640 posted on 05/15/2007 4:33:32 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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