ZOT CONG !!!
Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
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It seems like my impression is the same as a few other long time members.
Huh, Odd?
“But there are an equal number of instigators on both ends. Anyone who acts like it was only the fault of the “Evil Rudy Supporters” simply isn’t being honest about things.”
I will concede that I don’t know the posting history of many of the participants on this thread. But from what I’ve read, and gathered of past history, the conflicts weren’t just a result of this thread, but a long time on going history of conflict.
The point still remains though, that nearly all of the banned posters decided it was their ‘day in the sun’ to make as spectacular an exit as they could.
The disrespect for not only options, but the owner of this site, was prevalent from the beginning.
The fault,although not apparent in some cases, , was hugely obvious in the others.
And they were generally the banned posters.
Okay, Seems like some other old timers agree with me.
Hmmnn? Just can’t be, can it?
ZOT CONG !!!
Many of them, certainly, and others who were espoused other liberal causes. And some who were just extremely bad-mannered.
Clearly we missed an epic thread!
I did not use that term to describe this, Jim Rob did. I do understand your point, and maybe we should come up with another name for what we are doing.
To the left, Swiftboating is a pejorative. To the right, Swiftboating is revealing the truth about a liberal trying to pass himself off as something he's not. So since our audience will be Republicans, I don't think the term Swiftboating is a problem - but a new name would be nice.
In the case of John Kerry, the Swiftboaters showed he wasn't a war hero.
In the case of Rudy, the new organization will show he's not conservative. Maybe we can call it RINO-tizing?
I'd have to say that was a combination of things. And I think most of them still hold the same values as when they were doing so much for the GOP. That's the problem. They were more concerned with the GOP than with conservative values. Those used to go hand in hand, but have recently split. Some stuck with conservatism, and some stuck with their vision for the GOP. A lot of conservatives are happy to see them go, because they used their time here to beat up on conservatives.
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My opinion too, Jeff.
Freerepublic will be better and stronger in the end for standing up for our collective conservative principles.
Gosh. You're talking like it's over!
LOL...
Which reminds me of another quote, though I'll have to try this one from memory (subject to correction). "We may be swept away by the flood, but we don't have to sing Hosanna to the river gods" -- Canon Bell
I don’t see anyone calling me a moderate or liberal, or accusing me of pushing same but you.
I'm really beginning to wonder just how much of the conservative movement many of them embraced. The last seven years have been a constant battle to keep them from dragging FR too far leftwards.
You have also, in the past, discouraged rhetoric and accusations (a/k/a flame wars) that thrive on other parts of the internet.
It seems that THAT means of operating FR has gone by the boards, at least for now.
I have no dispute that you can run your site however you see fit, and I'd like to stay.
But as for the Presidential stuff - I can't clearly see the line that one can't cross, and it's probably better for me to stay away from those threads.
FreepBoating? 8^)
I agree wholeheartedly, Rob. I just got back on here, and the high-fiving and woo-hooing over long-time Freepers being banned is not sitting well. It has become an echo chamber.
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