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How to stop the next campus killing
The First Post ^ | April 19, 2007 | Alexander Cockburn

Posted on 04/19/2007 6:49:12 AM PDT by brityank

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College administrators live in constant fear of declining students enrollment. At the first sign of trouble they cover up. So, there's a double killing in a Virginia Tech dorm at 7.15am, after which Cho has time to go home, make his final home video, walk to the post office, mail his package to NBC and then head off to the engineering building with his guns.

The college's first email to students goes out more than two hours after the first killings were discovered.
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Two dead bodies, a killer somewhere on [or near] campus, and Steger makes his big decision to do nothing.

1 posted on 04/19/2007 6:49:13 AM PDT by brityank
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To: brityank
More info:

From citizen journalists to online sleuths ^

2 posted on 04/19/2007 6:52:22 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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Repeat... and repeat again: PC killed the 32 students at VT
3 posted on 04/19/2007 6:53:19 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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That isn’t a bad idea. Train volunteer students and teachers , if they won’t remove bans.


4 posted on 04/19/2007 6:55:22 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: brityank
Ban anti-depressants.

The logic supporting this claim is deeply flawed. Sorry.

5 posted on 04/19/2007 6:56:33 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: brityank

Don’t publish the names and photos of the perps, and certainly don’t publish their manifesto. Deny them the notoriety.


6 posted on 04/19/2007 6:57:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Wormwood

While the logic is flawed, there is a connection which must be examined.


7 posted on 04/19/2007 6:57:37 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: brityank

I agree with what he stated above.


8 posted on 04/19/2007 6:59:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: brityank

How to stop the next campus massacre:
1. Make it illegal to buy or sell to insane people - oops, that is already law. Perhaps the courts need to place the info in a national data base.
2. Make it illegal for non-Americans citizens to own or buy or be sold weapons. Ooops, same as above and input the data into - oops that is already done.
3. Seal the border to prevent illegals from entering and claiming to be Americans. NOW
4. An armed Citizen is a secure and safe citizen. It is evident that “sanctuaries” and gun control on honest citizens doesn’t work.


9 posted on 04/19/2007 6:59:41 AM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: brityank

Surprising to hear a communist support general gun ownership, since they usually only support gun ownership by communist party operatives and fellow thugs. But I imagine that he envisions that the “student volunteers,” carefully screened for their socialistic tendencies, to be the ones carrying.

The rest of the article is armchair monday morning quarterbacking.


10 posted on 04/19/2007 7:00:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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The rest of the article is armchair monday morning quarterbacking.

Just what we're all doing; you, FReeperdom, amd I -- trying to make sense of it all.

11 posted on 04/19/2007 7:03:53 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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-—yes—amazing from Cockburn, although I do remember stumbling across him making sense once or twice in the last 35 years or so-—


12 posted on 04/19/2007 7:04:21 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: brityank
I would add another way to stop this. Denegrate the shooter.

Imagine if this guy had tried this in the sociology department and ended up getting raped by the VT offensive line. That would make a headline that not even Kip Kinkle would have been impressed by. (not to disparage the VT Offensilve line, they have my respect).

In a similar vain I would propose the next shooter get's taken down and (befor the cops crawl out from behind their cover and concealment to save him) water boarded in a public toilet until he
1). Cries on film
2). Renounce whatever religion they are, and profess adherence to the Church of Scientology (remember, this is about discrediting them)
3). Pledge their life to the Holy Crusade against the Thetans,
4). Swear to honor the Hajj by pilgraming to Hollywood annually to bikin wax Tom Cruises Left Buttcheak.
5). Tearfully confess to being unimpressive to women
or Alternatively..Declare themselves to be Mr. Bean.

It all has to be done before the cops save him, and it needs to be on Youtube before ABC can make a folk hero out of the putz.

13 posted on 04/19/2007 7:07:21 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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Since there undoubtedly will be a next time, what useful counsel on preventative measures can we offer faculties across America?

There are a million winning Super Bowl coaches sitting in their recliners on Monday.

14 posted on 04/19/2007 7:12:14 AM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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"Don’t publish the names and photos of the perps, and certainly don’t publish their manifesto. Deny them the notoriety."

I have mixed feelings about this...as irresponsible as our press is and has been for several decades, we still have a first amendment. Likewise, in the war on terror, control of information is vital. If the press had been restricted in publishing what we know so far about VT, any number of terrorist groups would be free to claim credit for the incident, leading to public confusion, speculation and furthering the ends of these groups. Likewise, knowing the name may elicit past acquaintances and associates who could provide further info / evidence regarding the subject.

To the NYT's credit (wow, am I actually giving them credit for something?), they deliberated about publishing the Unabomber's manifesto, and working closely with the Investigative Support Unit (profilers) at the FBI, doing so led to the ultimate identification of Kaczynski by his brother in Chicago...

15 posted on 04/19/2007 7:12:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: brityank
Ban anti-depressants
Major BS. Would you also ban depressed people? Or only ban depressed people who are receiving treatment?

Otherwise the rest of the article makes some points. Campuses need armed security with 5 minute alert response time. And/Or faculty with approved gun carry rights.
16 posted on 04/19/2007 7:16:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Five years ago Peter Odighizuwa, a 43-year-old Nigerian student, killed three faculty members at Appalachian Law School with a handgun, but before he could wreak further carnage two students fetched weapons firearms from their cars, challenged the murderer with guns levelled, and disarmed him.

I think not enough has been said about this.
Even as we discuss the VT massacre, the MSM has a perfect record of witholding this fact from the American public.

Note also that even this critique timidly refers to them as "weapons" (baseball bats? brass knuckles?).

17 posted on 04/19/2007 7:18:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: ctdonath2
While the logic is flawed, there is a connection which must be examined.

The connection is that crazy people are more likely to be on anti-depressants.

18 posted on 04/19/2007 7:19:38 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Joe 6-pack

I don’t have any problem with them publishing the Unibomber’s manifesto. He was still on the loose, and there was a chance it would lead to his capture.

But this guy is dead, and it’s clear that he did it for the notoriety, just as did the Columbine killers, and the Amish schoolhouse killer. No purpose is served by publishing it, other than to make money, and plant the idea of a copycat in the mind of the next nutcase who wants to call attention to himself as his last act before committing suicide.


19 posted on 04/19/2007 7:19:48 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Don’t publish the names and photos of the perps, and certainly don’t publish their manifesto. Deny them the notoriety.

I most emphatically agree that the piece of garbage's name should never be mentioned, but as to the remainder, I just as emphatically disagree.

It was embarrassingly this morning for the moron police superintendent to express "regret" that NBC aired the images and ramblings of the killer.

That's not his job!!

Has he yet expressed "regret" for timid, incompetent law enforcement to have utterly failed in preventing 29 deaths?

20 posted on 04/19/2007 7:23:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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