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College administrators live in constant fear of declining students enrollment. At the first sign of trouble they cover up. So, there's a double killing in a Virginia Tech dorm at 7.15am, after which Cho has time to go home, make his final home video, walk to the post office, mail his package to NBC and then head off to the engineering building with his guns.

The college's first email to students goes out more than two hours after the first killings were discovered.
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Two dead bodies, a killer somewhere on [or near] campus, and Steger makes his big decision to do nothing.

1 posted on 04/19/2007 6:49:13 AM PDT by brityank
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From citizen journalists to online sleuths ^

2 posted on 04/19/2007 6:52:22 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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Repeat... and repeat again: PC killed the 32 students at VT
3 posted on 04/19/2007 6:53:19 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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Ban anti-depressants.

The logic supporting this claim is deeply flawed. Sorry.

5 posted on 04/19/2007 6:56:33 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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Don’t publish the names and photos of the perps, and certainly don’t publish their manifesto. Deny them the notoriety.


6 posted on 04/19/2007 6:57:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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I agree with what he stated above.


8 posted on 04/19/2007 6:59:37 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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How to stop the next campus massacre:
1. Make it illegal to buy or sell to insane people - oops, that is already law. Perhaps the courts need to place the info in a national data base.
2. Make it illegal for non-Americans citizens to own or buy or be sold weapons. Ooops, same as above and input the data into - oops that is already done.
3. Seal the border to prevent illegals from entering and claiming to be Americans. NOW
4. An armed Citizen is a secure and safe citizen. It is evident that “sanctuaries” and gun control on honest citizens doesn’t work.


9 posted on 04/19/2007 6:59:41 AM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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Surprising to hear a communist support general gun ownership, since they usually only support gun ownership by communist party operatives and fellow thugs. But I imagine that he envisions that the “student volunteers,” carefully screened for their socialistic tendencies, to be the ones carrying.

The rest of the article is armchair monday morning quarterbacking.


10 posted on 04/19/2007 7:00:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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I would add another way to stop this. Denegrate the shooter.

Imagine if this guy had tried this in the sociology department and ended up getting raped by the VT offensive line. That would make a headline that not even Kip Kinkle would have been impressed by. (not to disparage the VT Offensilve line, they have my respect).

In a similar vain I would propose the next shooter get's taken down and (befor the cops crawl out from behind their cover and concealment to save him) water boarded in a public toilet until he
1). Cries on film
2). Renounce whatever religion they are, and profess adherence to the Church of Scientology (remember, this is about discrediting them)
3). Pledge their life to the Holy Crusade against the Thetans,
4). Swear to honor the Hajj by pilgraming to Hollywood annually to bikin wax Tom Cruises Left Buttcheak.
5). Tearfully confess to being unimpressive to women
or Alternatively..Declare themselves to be Mr. Bean.

It all has to be done before the cops save him, and it needs to be on Youtube before ABC can make a folk hero out of the putz.

13 posted on 04/19/2007 7:07:21 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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Since there undoubtedly will be a next time, what useful counsel on preventative measures can we offer faculties across America?

There are a million winning Super Bowl coaches sitting in their recliners on Monday.

14 posted on 04/19/2007 7:12:14 AM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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Ban anti-depressants
Major BS. Would you also ban depressed people? Or only ban depressed people who are receiving treatment?

Otherwise the rest of the article makes some points. Campuses need armed security with 5 minute alert response time. And/Or faculty with approved gun carry rights.
16 posted on 04/19/2007 7:16:54 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Five years ago Peter Odighizuwa, a 43-year-old Nigerian student, killed three faculty members at Appalachian Law School with a handgun, but before he could wreak further carnage two students fetched weapons firearms from their cars, challenged the murderer with guns levelled, and disarmed him.

I think not enough has been said about this.
Even as we discuss the VT massacre, the MSM has a perfect record of witholding this fact from the American public.

Note also that even this critique timidly refers to them as "weapons" (baseball bats? brass knuckles?).

17 posted on 04/19/2007 7:18:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Better idea... Arm EVERY student. If the students are not mature enough or smart enough to handle a weapon they have no business being in college.

JMHO

32 posted on 04/19/2007 7:44:48 AM PDT by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo or Hunter)
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"A better idea would be for appropriately screened teachers and maybe student monitors to carry weapons. "

All good suggestions, but the one above it THE BEST.

"The college's first email to students goes out more than two hours after the first killings were discovered."

Students and faculty should have at LEAST been alerted within minutes of finding the bodies, to be on the lookout for an armed perpetrator. Police could not have known he would massacre thirty people, but the likihood that the killer was desperate and roaming campus with a gun, and therefore a danger to others, was very high.

34 posted on 04/19/2007 7:45:15 AM PDT by TAdams8591
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Cho was actually institutionalised as a psychotic and suicide risk in 2005. Yet when he returned to campus the administrators didn't even tip off his roommate.

You can thank two things for that: the Americans with Disabilities Act, which was stupidly extended to mental illness; and Tipper Gore, who tirelessly championed anti-discrimination and privacy rules for the "mentally ill" that have been adopted by states and municipalities across the nation.

39 posted on 04/19/2007 7:53:02 AM PDT by montag813
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If VT were in Japan, the President would have already taken his own life. This scumbag has no such sense of honor, but he should at least be forced to resign at once. As if it wasn’t bad enough he totally bungled the two-year response to Cho’s conduct, he also lobbied the Virginia Legislature to disarm the students and faculty of his college, for which blood is on his hands today.


43 posted on 04/19/2007 7:55:44 AM PDT by montag813
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Allow teachers, staff, and students who have a carry permit to continue to do so .


46 posted on 04/19/2007 7:59:24 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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What should be banned from campuses are not weapons but prescriptions for anti-depressants

MY! MY!

How interesting it is, that some people with mental problems just happen to be taking antidepressant drugs, so through a giant leap of logic, we blame the drugs?

Perhaps we should see if they were breathing, and blame the air quality.

Some do!

As to the rest of the finger pointing, it makes no sense to shut down a college, when witnesses claim the perp has left the campus. They were misled by witness statements and the initial confusion, and the likelihood that you could effectively lock down a college of this size and get any benefit from doing so, is nonsense. All the lock downs in much smaller, single building schools have had no effect on the actual damages incurred, and the original idea was to prevent unauthorized people from entering a school complex and hurting the kids.

Cho was a student and fully authorized to enter the classroom buildings and dorms. A lock down did not apply here, even if it could have been done.

49 posted on 04/19/2007 8:08:10 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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His essays so disturbed one of his teachers with their violent ravings that she arranged a secret signal in case she needed security during her tutorials.

I've seen this bandied around quite a bit lately. I wonder what Quentin Terantino's senior project looked like? How's about M Knight Shamalamadingdong's? If writing dark and disturbing stuff is grounds for institutionalization, parking is going to get a lot better in Burbank.

57 posted on 04/19/2007 8:51:57 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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Another thing to note was the cops with full body armor and full auto rifles hiding behind trees. Good grief, why have cops at all or waste the money on the hardware?


58 posted on 04/19/2007 8:53:03 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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Ok..say the campus allows the right to concealed carry-—now no one knows who is armed and who isn’t...
BUT
this nutjob knew it was going to end in suicide.
Does anyone think he would care if someone shot back and killed him while he was carrying out his evil deeds?
The problem with suicidal maniacs is: they don’t care that they are going to die.
Sure, the nutjob wants to take out as many people as he can, I just wonder if the possibilty of someone shooting back would be much of a deterrent.
I am a CC permit holder and avoid places where I am not permitted to carry.
I’m only questioning whether or not a whacko cares if he takes return fire. Keep in mind the concept of “suicide by cop”.
Can we logically second guess a person who is NOT logical?...but is crazed, evil and irrational?
Probably not.


61 posted on 04/19/2007 9:11:28 AM PDT by two23
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