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Wisconsin Company Nasty To Soldier Serving in Iraq
Military.com and confirmation from snopes.com ^ | 19 January 2007 | booksbenji

Posted on 01/20/2007 10:58:33 PM PST by icwhatudo

A soldier based in Iraq got this response when inquiring as to whether or not the company ships overseas. He wanted to get the troops better gear to sleep on.

To Whom it may concern:

Do you ship to APO addresses?

I'm in the 1st Cavalry Division stationed in Iraq and we are trying to order some mats but we are looking for who ships to APO first.

SGT Hess

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From: contact@discount-mats.com

[mailto:contact@discount-mats.com]

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:44 PM

Subject: Re: Feedback: from discount-mats.com

SGT Hess,

We do not ship to APO addresses, and even if we did, we would NEVER ship to Iraq.

If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq.

Bargain Suppliers

Discount-Mats.com

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1stcavalrydivision; apo; army; discountmats; discountscooters; email; gwot; iraq; iraqifreedom; mat; terrorism; trop; usarmy; waronterror; wisconsin; wot
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WEBSITE INFO -- http://discount-mats.com/

Registrant: >>> Faisal Khetani <<< PO Box 270693

Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227

United States

Registered through: Teknon Domains

Domain Name: DISCOUNT-MATS.COM

Created on: 23-Mar-05

Expires on: 23-Mar-08

Last Updated on: 03-Mar-06

Administrative Contact:

Khetani, Faisal sportsfitness@gmail.com

3259 S.106th Street

West Allis, Wisconsin 53227

United States

(414) 543-9634

Technical Contact:

Khetani, Faisal sportsfitness@gmail.com

3259 S.106th Street

West Allis, Wisconsin 53227

United States

(414) 543-9634

1 posted on 01/20/2007 10:58:35 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: icwhatudo

What, coordinated, is the best thing to do here? I could send a "you-suck-I'll-never-patronize-you" missive, but that doesn't make them HURT enough.


2 posted on 01/20/2007 11:02:53 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: icwhatudo

If there is another source of these mats, We need to find it and put these libturds out of business.


3 posted on 01/20/2007 11:04:29 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,.......................................................( well, not really.)
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To: icwhatudo

Bargain Suppliers
3259 S.106th Street
West Allis, WI 53227


4 posted on 01/20/2007 11:06:25 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: icwhatudo
Mark Belling, the afternoon host at WISN AM 1130 is on the case attempting to track down the people who own this company.

He says thart he may drive to West Allis and see what's at the listed address in in that town.

5 posted on 01/20/2007 11:09:12 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

These scumbags are based in Wisconsin.


6 posted on 01/20/2007 11:10:03 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: quidnunc

WISN is one of the best streams on the Internet: except Jay Weber comes on too early for those of us on the Left Coast.

Belling is good, too. A nice Hannity alternative.


7 posted on 01/20/2007 11:12:03 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: IslandJeff
Start with last year's Fed tax returns and toss out their tax ID#, it's public.

Employee documentation on record?

Shipping permits as they apply.

Any tax liens on the building (s) that they operate from?
10 posted on 01/20/2007 11:19:23 PM PST by quantim (Carcinoma Senatorus = Incurable cancer causing senators to think they're Presidential material.)
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To: quantim

I like how you think, Enological One.


11 posted on 01/20/2007 11:20:53 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: IslandJeff

Well well well,

http://www.quality-discount-scooters.com/contact.html


12 posted on 01/20/2007 11:24:57 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: icwhatudo

Idiots aside, there are a lot of companies that don't ship to APO addresses, even in Europe. Many of them ship with UPS and not the USPS and mailrooms don't receive UPS.

A lt of us in Germany use ship around services to get our goods.


13 posted on 01/20/2007 11:32:48 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: IslandJeff

>>>http://www.quality-discount-scooters.com/contact.html

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=quality-discount-scooters.com&prog_id=godaddy

I'm starting to get the feeling that that address stops all business five times a day.


14 posted on 01/20/2007 11:33:54 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: IslandJeff

Even an 800 number.


15 posted on 01/20/2007 11:35:16 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Slings and Arrows

These folks deserve a denial-of service attack. But that would be wrong.


16 posted on 01/20/2007 11:36:28 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("... without victory there is no survival." - Winston Churchill)
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To: Gamecock
Not shipping to APO's is really not the issue here. If the message had simply been "I'm sorry, we do not provide that service" (see libs, it's THAT easy) no ruckus would ensue.

Reality is, one idiot can bring down a company handily with a misplaced word to a potential contract.
17 posted on 01/20/2007 11:36:58 PM PST by Shion (Bring Back John Galt)
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To: Jeff Chandler
These folks deserve a denial-of service attack. But that would be wrong.

Getting this information to their customers IS a (moral and legal) denial-of-service attack.

18 posted on 01/20/2007 11:42:13 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: IslandJeff

Another interesing domain.
Registrant:
Ahmed Bushra

Registered through: Teknon Domains
Domain Name: QUALITY-DISCOUNT-SCOOTERS.COM

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.TEKNONSERVER-A.COM
NS2.TEKNONSERVER-A.COM


19 posted on 01/20/2007 11:43:23 PM PST by Where is todays Reagan
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To: Shion

I read the article. I am aware of the issue. I acknowledged the issue in my post when I stated "Idiots aside..."

My post was for educational purposes intended to let people know some of the issues we have being assigned overseas.


20 posted on 01/20/2007 11:50:06 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Where is todays Reagan

Technical Contact:
Bushra, Ahmed qscooters@gmail.com
PO Box 270693
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53227
United States
4147365971

Looks legit, unfortunately. FBI and IRS.gov came up empty. Haven't called the number yet.


21 posted on 01/20/2007 11:51:45 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: icwhatudo
File complaints with the companies whose logos appear on their page.


22 posted on 01/20/2007 11:54:57 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. )
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To: MNJohnnie; holdonnow; sono; eeevil conservative; Fudd Fan; Peach; mware; rodguy911; RasterMaster; ..

ping


23 posted on 01/20/2007 11:58:35 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: quidnunc

Could you post to us if Belling figures out if this is all legit?

I'd hate to be part of an email attack on this business if the whole thing is a hoax!


24 posted on 01/20/2007 11:59:36 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: MS.BEHAVIN; MountainFlower; lysie; MozartLover

ping


25 posted on 01/20/2007 11:59:48 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: PAR35

So, call/click, call/click, call/click would be a bit of civil disobedience?


26 posted on 01/20/2007 11:59:49 PM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Very interesting... If I was a federal investigator, I think I would want to look into this company and its finances. I wonder where some of the company profits go? Maybe just "peaceful" middle east organizations?


27 posted on 01/21/2007 12:00:05 AM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: AliVeritas

scumbag bump


28 posted on 01/21/2007 12:01:36 AM PST by the crow (I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
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To: AliVeritas

"If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq."

And if you were sensible, Faisal, you and your entire family including in-laws would pull out of the US of A and go to wherever you belong.

Bon voyage!


29 posted on 01/21/2007 12:02:20 AM PST by Bazooka (When Tolerance met Indifference, it was love at first sight.)
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To: icwhatudo

And when you complain to VeriSign, you might want to include the fact that on discount-mats.com's web site, the icon for VeriSign links to a discount-mats.com page. FRAUD?


30 posted on 01/21/2007 12:03:04 AM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. )
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To: Jeff Chandler
But that would be wrong.

Not really.

31 posted on 01/21/2007 12:04:35 AM PST by radiohead (They call me DOCTOR radiohead.)
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To: IslandJeff

I just copied and pasted the story and the facts of the company and emailed them all my friends, who in turn will forward the email to their friends..... I don't know if it helps but I like to know about companies like this. The company was rude in it's reply. I don't like rude people so in turn I won't do business with them. I also don't like to see a soldier's request being treated like this was. It makes me wonder about this company and the owners. I support our troops and if my company didn't ship overseas, I would find some way possible to do it even if I had to go to out of my way. ~~Pandora~~


32 posted on 01/21/2007 12:08:18 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah and dilligaf?)
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To: IslandJeff

Different phone number for repairs, Iowa. Also doesn't ship APO.


33 posted on 01/21/2007 12:08:41 AM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: IslandJeff
This could be a good thing if you look at it the right way. Find a mat producer that is American and have him contact the soldier in question and maybe even kick in a discount. The rag head doesn't get the money, the good guys do get the money and the soldier gets what he wants.
34 posted on 01/21/2007 12:10:54 AM PST by chuckles
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To: radiohead
But that would be wrong.

Not really.

Sub7 time?

35 posted on 01/21/2007 12:12:52 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("... without victory there is no survival." - Winston Churchill)
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To: AliVeritas; quantim

Like quantim said upthread, a Fed Tax ID number for this bozo would enable a craprain from FReepers.

I was going to 800-phone-bomb the jerk (and you thought PC dialup was outdated!), but, if, as you say, the scooter shop is a legitimate bidness, I'd only be creating collateral damage. Chances are this dickweed is just the most internet-savvy of a going concern involving several families.

Still, he must go down, and must go down hard.


36 posted on 01/21/2007 12:15:11 AM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: icwhatudo

I wonder if this 'business' owner gave donations to the john kerry campaign in 2004? Or to democrat candidates from Wisconsin in 2006? Might be interesting to find out if someone here has access to that info.


37 posted on 01/21/2007 12:20:51 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: AliVeritas; IslandJeff

This is beyond low. Looks like a project for the Levinites.


38 posted on 01/21/2007 12:21:26 AM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: SoCalPol; pandoraou812; AliVeritas

I wouldn't mind my original idea of repeated Hook Flashes to the 800 number (as it costs the recipient per call), but buried within some old statute is probably a proscription for such activity, and FR cannot officially advocate such.

We'll need all creative heads in on this one.


39 posted on 01/21/2007 12:25:33 AM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: IslandJeff

Looks like someone in the jerk's family got a degree in bioengineering at taxpayer expense:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:MUwqNBtWMtkJ:www.nsf.gov/pubs/2000/gf00hm/gf00hm.txt+3259+106th&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=19

Also, although I kind of doubt it's relevant:

http://www.hamiltonwildcats.com/Become%20a%20Mental%20Warrior.htm


40 posted on 01/21/2007 12:29:45 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: IslandJeff

Will re read this during the day when more awake and see what to come up with. Not a smart move by this company.


41 posted on 01/21/2007 12:33:26 AM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: IslandJeff

So far I've emailed this story to Blackfive milblog, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Rush, Hugh Hewitt, John Gibson of FoxNews (and others at FoxNews).


42 posted on 01/21/2007 12:34:59 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: Kathy in Alaska

Did anybody ping the Canteeners to this yet?


43 posted on 01/21/2007 12:36:27 AM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. )
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To: IslandJeff

I think we're handling it correctly now. This story has legs all over the Web, and even discussing things like repeated hook flashes or DOS attacks could rebound on FR. Convincing customers to take their business elsewhere is the way to deal with these jerks.


45 posted on 01/21/2007 12:37:31 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: AliVeritas; IslandJeff

You have FRmail


46 posted on 01/21/2007 12:41:22 AM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Admin Moderator

You are correct.

Mod, would you please nuke my #44? We're better than that.

Mahalo.
J-


47 posted on 01/21/2007 12:42:54 AM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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To: IslandJeff
Well my entire address book got an email. Some are PGR riders and many of my friends support the troops. So if they want to forward it, let them. I think WE need to know who we do business with. I refuse to use the Muslim owned gas stations. I know and have been told that many are not Muslim owned but Sikh. I know about the Sikhs..... my daughter is married to a Sikh.... So I decided to ask the gas attendants (I live in NJ where we don't pump our gas ) if they were Sikh. I didn't ask if they were Muslim. They totally hate Sikhs and will tell you in no uncertain words that they are not. Hearing that I just can drive away and get my gas elsewhere. I also started to use that at 7 11 's and other small stores. If they say they are Muslim or Islamic I just say sorry I don't do business with Muslims and walk out. I do not have to give them my business and I just won't. I have the right to pick and choose who to give my business to so far....
48 posted on 01/21/2007 12:44:12 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah and dilligaf?)
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To: IslandJeff

Good call, my FRiend.

SA&


49 posted on 01/21/2007 12:44:15 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Tell Tom Vilsack to WEAR THE BEAR!)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Admin Moderator

Thank you both very much. Fit of pique.


50 posted on 01/21/2007 12:45:41 AM PST by IslandJeff (Bad karma, killing me by degree)
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