Posted on 08/18/2006 9:48:38 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
They invaded the south when the south opened fire on Ft. Sumter.
Shakespeare's Henry V "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers..." Or do you have some equally revisionist origin for it?
And just what were those federal troops at Ft. Sumter doing? (Hint: it didn't have anything to do with slavery, but it did have a lot to do with what motivated many southerners to support withdrawal from a union that was increasingly in the thrall of northern mercantilist interests.)
Occupying a fort that had been built with federal money, on land deeded to the federal government by the state of South Carolina.
but it did have a lot to do with what motivated many southerners to support withdrawal from a union that was increasingly in the thrall of northern mercantilist interests
Funny, there's no mention of northern mercantalist interests in the Declaration of Causes that South Carolina's Secession Convention issued, but lots of talk about slavery.
EOM
I gave my answer. If you're going to play the tariff card, lay it on the table and we'll play out the hand.
Georgia's got 'em. I've had mine since 2000. It's an SCV tag, but not required to be an active member! I consider it an honor to my gr-gr-grandfather Greenberry King private in the Ga 56th Infantry Co. G. Army of the Tennesse
A new front appears to have opened.
"...I would put one on all three of my vehicles.
Just to piss off the libs if for no other reason."
I use the "Choose life" one for that.
I do like that one. Do you try to park in front of abortion clinics?
Maybe near your county democrat office?
Just a thought.
If you do hae one on your vehicle, do any lib fools damage you car?
The North gave up to the South over a dozen of installations except for Ft. Pickens and Ft. Sumter. Why?
Most of what the south seized were unmanned. The exception was Texas, where the commanding general there ordered the troops to turn over facilities without approval of Washington. General Twiggs later became a confederate general, surprise, surprise. Sumter and Pickens had commanders who did their duty.
What did Lincoln promise the South about Ft. Sumter?
I give up. What did Lincoln promise the South about Fort Sumter?
How many Yankees were killed at Sumter and how? Did the firing upon Ft. Sumter really deserve a response to invade the entire South and begin a War that was responsible for the deaths of over a half million Americans?
Had the Japanese managed to bomb Pearl Harbor and sink all those ships yet not kill anyone would it have been any less a declaration of hostilities? The South bombarded Sumter for more than 24 hours, and had they killed every man in the process their actions would have been no more hostile than not killing anyone. The fact that nobody died is more a tribute to the fort and the poor marksmanship of the rebel artillery than any sense of altruism on the part of the Davis regime.
Why did Lincoln fire David Hunter and John C. Fremont early in the war?
It boiled down to refusal to obey the existing civil laws.
Manning their assigned post and waiting to see what came next I imagine.
And you trot out nothing to contradict them but your say-so. Y'all keep insisting that it wasn't about slavery, but the actual secession conventions issued the declarations and said that it WAS, in fact, all about slavery, with maybe a token nod toward navigation acts (Georgia) or Indians (Texas). If you've got some contemporaneous documents, some speeches by southern leaders, some newspaper editorials that say what's leading the southern states to secede, and it isn't overwhelmingly about slavery and the threat to slave property rights that the Republican electoral victory supposedly posed, I'd love to see it.
free dixie,sw
did you get that out of a LEFTIST book published at YALE or HARVARD or perhaps at BERKLEY????
free dixie,sw
Yeah ... okay ... sure and like I believe Lincoln didn't provoke the incident to get war.
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