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Stay of Soledad cross removal extended (to allow for potential review by SCOTUS as needed)
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 7/7/06 | Greg Moran

Posted on 07/07/2006 8:03:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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Justice Kennedy's opinion extending stay of Soledad cross removal (PDF)
1 posted on 07/07/2006 8:03:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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"McElroy said he interpreted that to mean that if he wins in the appeals courts Kennedy would be willing to lift his order blocking removal."

Maybe Mister McElroy should have read a little better.

” He also said it was likely that four justices on the high court would be willing to review the case if the federal appeals court upholds Thompson's order."

Nothing there indicates that the SCOTUS would lift the block. Matter of fact, it's just the opposite.


2 posted on 07/07/2006 8:08:36 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NormsRevenge

Woo-Hoo! Chalk one up for Kennedy. Looks like he got this one right! We voted and keeping the Cross is the will of the people!


3 posted on 07/07/2006 8:14:01 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Kennedy has long believed that crosses, commandments, creches, etc., on public property do not violate the establishment clause. Now he actually has five votes to make his view the holding of the Court. O'Connor denied him and the conservatives on the Court that opportunity for years.


4 posted on 07/07/2006 8:26:29 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: NormsRevenge

Good...


5 posted on 07/07/2006 8:29:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: Bigh4u2
Nothing there indicates that the SCOTUS would lift the block. Matter of fact, it's just the opposite.

Exactly. Kennedy's opinion reads so much against lifting the block (and he seems to be hinting to the lower courts, both the federal and the state, that they better get the law right) that the only explanation for this lawyer's statement is absurd spin. Justice Kennedy also says that he has considered whether the votes to grant cert in the future exist, and he thinks that they are there.
6 posted on 07/07/2006 8:43:29 PM PDT by NinoFan
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(and he seems to be hinting to the lower courts, both the federal and the state, that they better get the law right)

This was my take on it also.

The lawyer is a kook and so is his client. This town voted overwhelmingly to keep the Cross right where it is.

7 posted on 07/07/2006 8:48:56 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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O'Connor denied him and the conservatives on the Court that opportunity for years."""

Thank God and Greyhound she's gone.

8 posted on 07/07/2006 8:52:07 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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"Kennedy said the court, which refused three years ago to get involved in the dispute, may consider it because of two new factors favorable to cross proponents."

"Cross proponents"? Is this some new media/leftist word for CHRISTIANS? No matter what the final outcome of this case, the fact that a legal debate about whether or not this cross is "constitutional" has climbed all the way up to the Supreme Court is just another sign of how far down the toilet our country has been flushed by the leftists.

This should not even be an issue in America, a nation that was founded by Christians, built by Christians, has prospered on the moral, religious and cultural princples of Christianity, and and has survived on the blood of Christians.

9 posted on 07/07/2006 8:54:13 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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No kidding. With both her and Kennedy on the Court, conservatives rarely won a case, especially in the last few years. Now, with her off the Court, we at least have the opportunity to right some wrongs, if you will.


10 posted on 07/07/2006 9:10:43 PM PDT by NinoFan
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AP on Yahoo

Supreme Court stay upheld in cross case

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060707/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_cross_dispute

WASHINGTON - The city of San Diego won a Supreme Court stay on Friday that blocks the removal of a large cross from city property.


Justice Anthony M. Kennedy said the temporary stay he authorized earlier this week should protect the cross until the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals hears arguments this fall in a long-running dispute over the cross.

Kennedy also took the unusual step of explaining his decision, in a four page opinion, and suggested that he and his colleagues may be interested in a broader review of the case.1

"The equities here support preserving the status quo while the city's appeal proceeds," he wrote. "Compared to the irreparable harm of altering the memorial and removing the cross, the harm in a brief delay pending the Court of Appeals' expedited consideration of the case seems slight."

A lower court judge had ordered the city of San Diego to remove the cross or be fined $5,000 a day. The judge ruled that the cross, a symbol of Christianity, was an unconstitutional endorsement of one religion over another.

The 29-foot cross, on a half-acre site atop Mount Soledad in the La Jolla area, had been contested in 1989 by Philip Paulson, a Vietnam veteran and atheist.

The Supreme Court refused three years ago to get involved in the dispute. Since then, Congress agreed to make the area a national veterans memorial, and San Diego residents voted to transfer the land to the federal government.

Kennedy, a California native, said, "Congress' evident desire to preserve the memorial makes it substantially more likely" the high court would agree to hear the case now.


11 posted on 07/07/2006 9:14:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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The great thing about all of this is that it exposes Dim Dems for what they are not.

Americans.


12 posted on 07/07/2006 9:17:11 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: NormsRevenge

Phillip Paulson, thank you for serving your country in your day. Unfortunately, today you are a narcissistic *ss.


13 posted on 07/07/2006 9:18:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: NormsRevenge

Can someone help me here? Wasn't there a ruling or something that had to do with tradition that can be used as an argument here?


14 posted on 07/07/2006 9:22:09 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I despise the idea that in our democracy 9 unelected individuals sitting on high in DC can overrule the will of 76% of the voting residents in San Diego. Is this how our checks and balance system was intended to work? The Courts are out of control.
15 posted on 07/07/2006 9:29:18 PM PDT by Cognoscenti247
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To: Cognoscenti247

maybe, maybe not..

the words
'In order to form a more perfect union' come to mind

our system isn't perfect ,, but it isn't the Comnstitution's fault for trying to set a high standard for those who follow it and are sworn to uphold it, both in the word and spirit intended thereof.

Faith and prayer were staples of the Founding Fathers, let's hope they are as powerful a tools or beliefs today as they were then.


16 posted on 07/07/2006 9:36:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hooray to http://www.thomasmore.org/


17 posted on 07/07/2006 9:39:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: NormsRevenge

Fantastic! This case (and kicking the Boy Scouts off Balboa Park) is why I came up with my tagline.


18 posted on 07/07/2006 9:41:11 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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This case (and kicking the Boy Scouts off Balboa Park) is why I came up with my tagline.

And a fine tagline it is. You did fail to include the Second Amendment in the "too vile to defend" list, though. Heck, it's to the ACLU as garlic is to a vampire.

19 posted on 07/07/2006 10:21:45 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Free Travis!)
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To: sageb1

sorry for not replying earlier,

technically the cross or specific area in question has been a war memorial for years if I am not mistaken, it hasn't been under federal control tho.

it was up to the city to continue to pursue legal action after the Judge shot them down in the latest round of legal action. They chose to do so with assistance from others and that is where we are today from a stay standpoint.

Congressional action to provide for relief may also be in the offing, so who knows how this may end, for now , the cross stands.. odds look much better than a few months ago, after the city voted in favor of a measure to keep it there thru whatever means necessary.. but the Judge ruled otherwise


20 posted on 07/07/2006 10:24:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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