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Justice Kennedy's opinion extending stay of Soledad cross removal (PDF)
1 posted on 07/07/2006 8:03:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

"McElroy said he interpreted that to mean that if he wins in the appeals courts Kennedy would be willing to lift his order blocking removal."

Maybe Mister McElroy should have read a little better.

” He also said it was likely that four justices on the high court would be willing to review the case if the federal appeals court upholds Thompson's order."

Nothing there indicates that the SCOTUS would lift the block. Matter of fact, it's just the opposite.


2 posted on 07/07/2006 8:08:36 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NormsRevenge

Woo-Hoo! Chalk one up for Kennedy. Looks like he got this one right! We voted and keeping the Cross is the will of the people!


3 posted on 07/07/2006 8:14:01 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Kennedy has long believed that crosses, commandments, creches, etc., on public property do not violate the establishment clause. Now he actually has five votes to make his view the holding of the Court. O'Connor denied him and the conservatives on the Court that opportunity for years.


4 posted on 07/07/2006 8:26:29 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: NormsRevenge

Good...


5 posted on 07/07/2006 8:29:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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"Kennedy said the court, which refused three years ago to get involved in the dispute, may consider it because of two new factors favorable to cross proponents."

"Cross proponents"? Is this some new media/leftist word for CHRISTIANS? No matter what the final outcome of this case, the fact that a legal debate about whether or not this cross is "constitutional" has climbed all the way up to the Supreme Court is just another sign of how far down the toilet our country has been flushed by the leftists.

This should not even be an issue in America, a nation that was founded by Christians, built by Christians, has prospered on the moral, religious and cultural princples of Christianity, and and has survived on the blood of Christians.

9 posted on 07/07/2006 8:54:13 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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AP on Yahoo

Supreme Court stay upheld in cross case

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060707/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_cross_dispute

WASHINGTON - The city of San Diego won a Supreme Court stay on Friday that blocks the removal of a large cross from city property.


Justice Anthony M. Kennedy said the temporary stay he authorized earlier this week should protect the cross until the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals hears arguments this fall in a long-running dispute over the cross.

Kennedy also took the unusual step of explaining his decision, in a four page opinion, and suggested that he and his colleagues may be interested in a broader review of the case.1

"The equities here support preserving the status quo while the city's appeal proceeds," he wrote. "Compared to the irreparable harm of altering the memorial and removing the cross, the harm in a brief delay pending the Court of Appeals' expedited consideration of the case seems slight."

A lower court judge had ordered the city of San Diego to remove the cross or be fined $5,000 a day. The judge ruled that the cross, a symbol of Christianity, was an unconstitutional endorsement of one religion over another.

The 29-foot cross, on a half-acre site atop Mount Soledad in the La Jolla area, had been contested in 1989 by Philip Paulson, a Vietnam veteran and atheist.

The Supreme Court refused three years ago to get involved in the dispute. Since then, Congress agreed to make the area a national veterans memorial, and San Diego residents voted to transfer the land to the federal government.

Kennedy, a California native, said, "Congress' evident desire to preserve the memorial makes it substantially more likely" the high court would agree to hear the case now.


11 posted on 07/07/2006 9:14:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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The great thing about all of this is that it exposes Dim Dems for what they are not.

Americans.


12 posted on 07/07/2006 9:17:11 PM PDT by funkywbr
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Phillip Paulson, thank you for serving your country in your day. Unfortunately, today you are a narcissistic *ss.


13 posted on 07/07/2006 9:18:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: NormsRevenge

Can someone help me here? Wasn't there a ruling or something that had to do with tradition that can be used as an argument here?


14 posted on 07/07/2006 9:22:09 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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I despise the idea that in our democracy 9 unelected individuals sitting on high in DC can overrule the will of 76% of the voting residents in San Diego. Is this how our checks and balance system was intended to work? The Courts are out of control.
15 posted on 07/07/2006 9:29:18 PM PDT by Cognoscenti247
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To: NormsRevenge

Hooray to http://www.thomasmore.org/


17 posted on 07/07/2006 9:39:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: NormsRevenge

Fantastic! This case (and kicking the Boy Scouts off Balboa Park) is why I came up with my tagline.


18 posted on 07/07/2006 9:41:11 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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Those homosexuals out there hate looking at that cross because it reminds them how sinful they are.


22 posted on 07/07/2006 11:12:52 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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Let's remember that Judge Thompson had *approved* of the sale of the land by the city, the 9th circus overruled his decision.
25 posted on 07/07/2006 11:34:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes with Angelides.)
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I hate to rain on anyone's parade here, but how much have the endless lawsuits, legal challenges, and running of a ballot initiative on this issue cost San Diego taxpayers?

I would think that it would be cheaper to simply sell the site to a private party (say the VOFW) and be done with it. Even if the site was sold at a public auction, it would probably have taken less effort to run a fundraising drive than all this. And keep in mind that so long as this is kept in the courts, the opposition isn't being forced to put it's money where it's mouth is.


28 posted on 07/08/2006 6:19:20 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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Why is everyone praising Kennedy? He should have simply dismissed the original court ruling on the basis of its violation of both the 1st and 10th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. No Federal Court has ANY jurisdiction WHATSOEVER over how a state or municipality deals with the issue of religion. The Constitution grants the Courts jurisdiction solely over the actions of Congress with respect to religion. The 10th Amendment protects the States and, by extension, municipalities from the intrusive arm of the Federal courts on this and dozens of other issues.

The Mayor of San Diego should long ago have announced that the court's ruling was unconstitutional, that he was officially nullifying it, and would pay no fines that the court ordered. I don't understand how we as a nation has stooped so low, and to unquestioningly cede so much power to the Judiciary that it has not been given by our Constitution.

33 posted on 07/08/2006 8:38:34 AM PDT by montag813
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It's not a cross. Some people just build giant lower case "t's"


34 posted on 07/08/2006 2:36:50 PM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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I really think we need to start a big push to remove idiot judges like this. How many millions of dollars has this ridiculous lawsuit cost? How did it ever get this far?

This bozo is actually a Nixon appointee. He has evidently been handing down bad decisions for an entire lifetime. I hate to think how many other stupid things he has accomplished over his 36 year career on the bench.




Thompson, Gordon Jr.
Born 1929 in San Diego, CA

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Southern District of California
Nominated by Richard M. Nixon on October 7, 1970, to a new seat created by 84 Stat. 294; Confirmed by the Senate on October 13, 1970, and received commission on October 16, 1970. Served as chief judge, 1984-1991. Assumed senior status on December 28, 1994.

Education:
University of Southern California, B.S., 1951

Southwestern University School of Law, LL.B., 1956

Professional Career:
Deputy district attorney, County of San Diego, California, 1957-1960
Private practice, San Diego, California, 1960-1970

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male


37 posted on 07/11/2006 1:56:56 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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