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Let’s cut to the chase: blades must be banned
The Times (UK) ^ | 2/12/06 | Katie Grant

Posted on 02/13/2006 9:28:37 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Katie Grant: Let’s cut to the chase: blades must be banned

As you walked down the street this morning to buy this paper, did you stop to wonder whether any of those you passed were carrying a knife? If you live in the west of Scotland, chances are that if you passed 20 young men aged between 15 and 25, almost all would have been carrying a “blade”, as the cool call them, for “protection”. Glasgow is more like The Sopranos than The Simpsons.

Knowing this, Cathy Jamieson, the justice minister, has announced that there is to be a nationwide knife amnesty running for a month, beginning in May. The aim is to reduce knife crime in Scotland, which is double that of London, and rising.

This is not the first time such an amnesty has been declared, During Operation Blade in 1993 more than 4,500 weapons were surrendered in only four weeks. The police hailed it a success when in the subsequent 12 months murder rates fell by 26% and attempted murder by 19%.

The success, however, was shortlived. In 1996, 227 people were convicted for crimes involving offensive weapons. In 2000 it was 1,137. In 2004-2005 there were 9,545 reported instances of “handling a weapon”, and this after the launch of dozens of well-intentioned initiatives, both national and local, to try to reduce this Scottish scourge.

Nobody is complacent. Last November, Jack McConnell, the first minister, announced a five-point plan for reducing knife crime, which included banning the sale of samurai swords, longer jail terms, more powers of search and arrest, a tighter licensing scheme and increasing the age at which you can buy a knife from 16 to 18.

This latest amnesty, during which knife-carriers can, without fear of prosecution, hand over their weapons in designated safe spots for the police to destroy, does not arrive in a vacuum: one of its purposes is to kick-start a year-long Safer Scotland anti-violence campaign.

Nobody could possibly wish such a campaign ill, particularly when we learnt recently that there are 170 knife-wielding gangs in Glasgow looking for a share of the action on a Saturday night. That is a lot of blades. Add booze and drugs to the knives and it is no wonder that Glasgow, and therefore Scotland, gets such a bad name. Compared with what is going on now, the infamous ice-cream wars look both tame and contained.

I am not, therefore, criticising the latest amnesty in itself. I simply worry that it is of far less use than police and politicians like to assert. One outstanding and immediate problem, which hasn’t been addressed, is how ridiculously easy it is to buy a “battle-ready” sword and have it delivered to your Scottish doorstep. So easy is it that swords are, apparently, a weapon of choice for Glasgow gangs.

I logged onto a website called Glasgow Weapons, a Guide to Surviving Your Trip to Glasgow, Scotland, and found other useful pieces of information, including the correct gangland terminology. A “chib” is for cutting and slicing; a “cosh” or “tool” is for bashing; a “stakey” is a long, stabbing blade and a “spike” is a screwdriver or other thin implement. “It is essential to get the nomenclature correct as a mugger with a stakey may well be slightly offended if he was accused of chibbing you,” I was informed with ironic cheeriness.

Then I clicked the mouse to buy a 27in high-tension carbon steel blade described as “very sharp” from “China’s pre-eminent custom knifemaker, Paul Chen”. I had to tick a box saying I was over 16 and that I should understand that age verification checks might be carried out. I hardly think this rather pathetic stricture would put off any gang member.

Also, nobody during an amnesty gives up a weapon they are intending to use. If a profile were to be drawn up of those taking advantage of this official “blind eye”, I suspect it would mainly be men who have grown out of their gang habit or younger men handing over something to please wives, mothers or girlfriends. In the latter case, I doubt that the weapon they hand over is the only one they have. Indeed, it can’t be since we know that the number of illegal blades in circulation in some parts of Scotland is still on the rise. So while, directly after an amnesty, murder and attempted murder rates may fall, when knife-carrying men don’t hand in their attitude at the same time as their weapons, the benefits are very short-term.

Given what we know about the profile of blade-carriers, another thing that surprises me is that our politicians don’t take the bull by the horns and legislate to ban the sale of knives to anybody under 25, rather than 18. Holyrood has banned smoking, hunting and even fur farming, although there are no fur farms in Scotland. Why not get behind a proper ban that nobody in their right mind would oppose? Eighteen-year-olds have no “right” to carry a knife in a society thatis no longer formed from hunter- gatherers living in caves.

A ban on buying a knife until you were 25 would not solve the problem of illegal sales to younger people, but it would surely be a useful adjunct to an amnesty and the effect rather more long- lasting.

In those parts of Scotland in which badger- or bear-baiting has been replaced by people-baiting and in which drink, substance abuse and the kind of illiteracy that makes thumping somebody the preferred method of communication, we need to make it far more difficult for young men to turn themselves into extras for Kill Bill.

Yet it is at least some cause for optimism that everybody seems to agree that the level of knife crime in Scotland is a scandal. Even Tommy Sheridan, in a rare outbreak of good sense, wants mandatory sentences for young people who carry blades.

However, while I welcome the amnesty, it needs to be accompanied by more radical measures. Come on, politicians, stop pussy-footing about and really get a grip.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2a; akti; bang; banglist; blade; knife; knifecrime; rkba; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/13/2006 9:28:38 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

In the beginning, there were "rum runners"; then there were "gun runners"; soon there will be "blade runners".


2 posted on 02/13/2006 9:29:23 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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Once this happens, we'll see a new headline:

Let's cut to the chase. We must ban cricket bats.

3 posted on 02/13/2006 9:30:11 AM PST by cchandler
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To: kiriath_jearim

Great thinking! Let's ban rocks next.


4 posted on 02/13/2006 9:30:18 AM PST by AngryJawa ("But honey, I *need* a Main Battle Rifle...[NRA])
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To: kiriath_jearim

Onion parody?


5 posted on 02/13/2006 9:30:38 AM PST by pabianice (contact ebay??)
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To: kiriath_jearim

We are living in the age of insanity.


6 posted on 02/13/2006 9:31:28 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: AngryJawa

When rocks are banned only DU will have rocks.........in their heads........


7 posted on 02/13/2006 9:31:50 AM PST by Red Badger (...Never forget, Jimmy Carter can be elected president AGAIN!........)
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To: AngryJawa

How about the shod foot? How many people get kicked in the shin and it really hurts?


8 posted on 02/13/2006 9:32:12 AM PST by Holicheese (Sold my house in MA. Another Yankee moving to NC!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

These half measures will never work.

Since only humans can commit crimes, we need to ban humans.


9 posted on 02/13/2006 9:32:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: kiriath_jearim

Never fear. The government will find a way to keep us safe from everything. Soon it will be against the law to leave your home. And as soon as some cabin-fever crazy man kills his family (a la The Shining) it will be against the law to leave your room or interact with other people.

Thank God we have government.


10 posted on 02/13/2006 9:32:41 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

we need to ban fists! for the children!


11 posted on 02/13/2006 9:33:27 AM PST by DM1
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To: cchandler

Yep, first baldes, then cricket bats, then it will be illegal to have any loose stones on your property as they will make handy weapons...


12 posted on 02/13/2006 9:33:57 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: kiriath_jearim

Obviously, crime in Scotland is caused by knives. No knives, no crime.

See how simple it is? Good thing there are such intelligent people in the world to come to such conclusions.


13 posted on 02/13/2006 9:34:48 AM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: kiriath_jearim

When knives are outlawed only outlaws will be able to eat steak.


14 posted on 02/13/2006 9:35:31 AM PST by faq (conducive to cognitive dissonance)
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To: kiriath_jearim

After we get rid of the knives we can go for the pointed sticks next.


15 posted on 02/13/2006 9:35:43 AM PST by Mongeaux (You are a wise man and I agree with you completely. This was a cage diving operation, was the water)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I think boots and shoes should be banned because it hurts more getting kicked by someone wearing them vice a barefoot kick.

Oooh, ooh. I have another idea. How about just banning attempted murder and robbery?


16 posted on 02/13/2006 9:36:07 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: cchandler; AngryJawa

Let's cut to the chase. We must ban cricket bats./rocks

Let's see how funny you think it is when some hooligan stabs you in the cheek with a fork (or maybe your dad does it at the dinner table when you don't finish your peas), eh buddy?  That's the real menace to society, forks!  Once we've got those off the table, so to speak, all will be sweetness and light and the lions will lay with the lambs.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

17 posted on 02/13/2006 9:36:34 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I had to tick a box saying I was over 16 and that I should understand that age verification checks might be carried out. I hardly think this rather pathetic stricture would put off any gang member.

This pinhead can clearly see that a tick box isn't going to stop a gang member from purchasing a knife, but she doesn't consider how many gang members are going to succumb to an amnesty to turn in their knives!?

These folks are just not willing to face the problem: gangs, not knives!

18 posted on 02/13/2006 9:36:57 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: kiriath_jearim

Ban Pencils


19 posted on 02/13/2006 9:37:40 AM PST by Lexington Green (Hollywood Patriot - Now THERE'S an oxymoron.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"chances are that if you passed 20 young men aged between 15 and 25, almost all would have been carrying a “blade”, as the cool call them, for “protection”

To me, the sub title for concealed gun carry is "to control the young men". CCL makes the elders (grumps?)in a neighborhood able to maintain their calming influence,when youthful exuberance leads to threatening behavior.


20 posted on 02/13/2006 9:39:59 AM PST by ansel12
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