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Stop Whining – Right Choices and the Courts (GOP forms circular firing squad – shoots feet)
RealClearPolitics ^ | October 7, 2005 | Ronald A. Cass

Posted on 10/07/2005 9:57:33 AM PDT by quidnunc

To hear the howls from conservative commentators following President Bush’s nomination of Harriet Miers, you would think that Bush just sold a seat on the Supreme Court to someone who’s a cross between Ann Richards and Barney the White House pet. Half the critics aren’t certain that Ms. Miers shares their views or will vote the way they want on key issues. The other half complain that Ms. Miers has no qualifications to be on the Court, having been neither a judge nor a scholar. All of the critics assume that it is more important that their preferences for appointment to the Court be respected than that the President’s choice be given presumptive weight.

The critics should take a deep breath, count to ten, exhale — and stop whining.

Let’s start with the qualifications issue. Having spent 30 years in academia, including 14 years as a dean, I have strong respect for those who have enough passion about legal concepts to write and speak about them. I also have enormous respect for the work of judges, and have many extraordinarily able friends on appellate courts who would have topped my own list of best nominees for the Supreme Court. Ms. Miers wasn’t my pick, and wouldn’t have been if I had been choosing, because she doesn’t bring to the Court demonstrated excellence in the skill set that I value most for that position. But it’s not my decision to make, and none of my own credentials gives me the right to tell the President who should sit on the Court. They do, however, give me standing to answer some of his critics.

First, it’s wrong to say that Ms. Miers’ only qualification for the court is friendship with the President. Of course, her close association with the President put her in a position to be selected. Just as, for example, Robert Jackson’s close association with Franklin Roosevelt led to his appointment to the Court. Yet Miers isn’t some childhood friend of the President’s who was nominated out of friendship alone. She is a close associate who has worked for and with the President for years, providing legal services, advice, and counsel on policy and personnel matters — someone the President has seen at work day in and day out for years. She’s someone whose views and values the President knows and whose legal skills have benefited him for more than a decade.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blamethemessanger; rationalization
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To: Souled_Out
That is the attitude the Republican party takes with Conservatives that puts them in the current situation and ensures their defeat.

So which 3rd party are you voting for in '08?


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41 posted on 10/07/2005 12:18:36 PM PDT by rdb3 (What's the use when the god of confusion keeps on telling the same lie?)
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To: ElPatriota
Well said (#30). While I'm reluctantly willing to give Bush the benefit of the doubt on Miers for now, it seems almost Clintonesque to me when I see a conservative parse out how she, technically, meets the qualifications for Supreme Court justice and therefore, "why are you whining about it?". Okay, sure, technically she meets the definition of qualified -- but how can anyone, given what's at stake, not feel some concern about the fact that so many other, "openly" conservative candidates were passed over?
42 posted on 10/07/2005 12:22:09 PM PDT by workerbee (A person's a person no matter how small.)
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To: rdb3
"So which 3rd party are you voting for in '08?"
I'm not sure how I will vote in 08, that is a long way away and we have not seen this issue played out yet.

I don't vote for political parties, I would not piss on either one of them if they were on fire, I vote for people and ideas.

I would not have a problem voting 3rd party or staying at home as a message to the Republican party that "power is given and power is taken away".

Currently I do not believe a legitimate 3rd party exists, but if the Conservatives from both parties joined together, that would make an interesting mix.

43 posted on 10/07/2005 12:27:44 PM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: Souled_Out
Currently I do not believe a legitimate 3rd party exists...

I agree with you 100% there.

...but if the Conservatives from both parties joined together, that would make an interesting mix.

Okay, there I have to laugh. Let's say that there really are "conservatives" in the RAT party. If they really were conservative, why remain a Dem? Many moderate to right-leaning Dems have already bolted, so I don't think that there are any left on the Left (no pun intended).


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44 posted on 10/07/2005 12:35:51 PM PDT by rdb3 (What's the use when the god of confusion keeps on telling the same lie?)
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To: quidnunc
Seems to me, Elitist do most of the whining and the loudest.
45 posted on 10/07/2005 12:37:55 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: rdb3
"Okay, there I have to laugh."
Yeah, I agree that came off as being pretty ridiculous.
46 posted on 10/07/2005 3:27:09 PM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: rdb3

You caught my allusion exactly.


47 posted on 10/07/2005 4:40:50 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: quidnunc

To hear the howls from conservative commentators following President Bush’s nomination of Harriet Miers, you would think that Bush just sold a seat on the Supreme Court to someone who’s a cross between Ann Richards and Barney the White House pet.




Biggest problem with her, the last stealth candidate we had was Souter. Enough said.


48 posted on 10/07/2005 4:47:43 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

It takes time for people in the middle who have actually started to think of themselves as Republicans to adopt more conservative positions. Like most of us, I didn't do it all at once.




So...the Republicans have to govern like pu$$ies and nominate "stealth" candidates for judgeships so they don't lose these independant minded voters? In other words, "pi$$ off conservatives, we don't need you."

Ok. Lets watch them win in '06 without conservatives. Or will enough be stupid enough to (while still clutching their groins in pain) crawl into the polls to beg to be kicked in the teeth too?


49 posted on 10/07/2005 4:52:14 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: trubluolyguy

You frame your argument so well, you've convinced me. I'm going show 'em! I'm going to stay home on election day. Serves the Republicans right. The Democrats will do a much better job of playing to Bush's conservative base.

You win! Hillary in '08!!!


50 posted on 10/09/2005 7:11:25 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: rightinthemiddle

You frame your argument so well, you've convinced me. I'm going show 'em! I'm going to stay home on election day. Serves the Republicans right. The Democrats will do a much better job of playing to Bush's conservative base.

You win! Hillary in '08!!!





Mmmmm, good kool-aid.


51 posted on 10/09/2005 9:36:25 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Ready, Stop! Hamster Time!)
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To: trubluolyguy

Just saw this at the bottom of my posts...so sorry I missed such a well-reasoned post.


52 posted on 10/14/2005 7:57:22 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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