She met him, but not according to the schedule of the network cameramen or wire service photogs. They met privately and her mom took a pic for the local paper. I guess that was because she's such a publicity hound.
Posted on 08/08/2005 9:32:05 AM PDT by Crackingham
"Everyone knows the famous WWII photo of the Marines raising the U.S. Flag on Iwo Jima, and most Freepers probably also know that photo was somewhat choreographed, perhaps the flag was even raised several times to get just the right shot. "
not quite
the famous raising was the second actual flag raising on MT Suribachi - the first was a temporary raising to let other units that a US unit had gotten a toehold
the second and photographed raising was not choreographed as it was just a photographer who just starting shooting a ton of pics as they raised this second flag. combo of luck and timing
Please, expound on your reply...
I'm sorry to sound so harsh, but you're wrong and you're unintentionally spreading a falsehood. Just a pet peeve of mine - nothing personal.
The second flag-raising wasn't staged, choreographed, or tried several times. The famous Rosenthal photograph was a spontaneous shot of the raising of a replacement flag, which was put up because the first one wasn't large enough to satisfy the brass. Nothing staged about it.
The reason people think it was staged was because Rosenthal answered a "Was it posed?" question in the affirmative, believing that the person asking the question was referring to a totally different shot which WAS posed (a group of Marines all posing together, facing the camera, raising their rifles).
That's how the rumor got started. I'd just like to see it end, is all.
Lou, I should add that even though you didn't know the facts about the Iwo Jima flag-raising, your larger point remains and I agree with it. She should probably just keep some of these feelings to herself.
I may be cynical, but it sounds to me like Jessica misses the spotlight and tried to put herself back in it.
I could be wrong, but...
the second and photographed raising was not choreographed as it was just a photographer who just starting shooting a ton of pics as they raised this second flag.
Ok, the "famous" raising, was actually the second...the first was just temporary...? Look, if they had one to begin with and had the luxury of placing a second one with a half-dozen Marines, that's choregraphed. I'm sure that everyone knows that the first one was actually a much smaller flag. Replacing it with a larger one--is choreography, it's staged, it's planned--whatever you want to call it.
Don't get me wrong, in no way does it diminish the acts of bravery of those Marines.
Lou, you need to educate yourself about this before you talk about it. Please.
I've been called many things before, but uneducated is not usually one of them. If I'm mistaken on one of my points, please enlighten me.
It could be assumed, I suppose, that a lot of people are unaware of the fact that the Rosenthal photo is of the raising of a replacement flag, but that in no way justifies use of the terms "staged" and "choreographed". It wasn't. It was as spontaneous as the first flag-raising was.
Being educated does not insulate a person from being mistaken, which you have demonstrated here today. All I'm asking is that you get it right next time.
If you want to read about this in detail, I recommend "Flags of Our Fathers" by James Bradley, and "Immortal Images" by Tedd Thomey.
Maybe she's not telling the truth about what doesn't bother her anymore.
Think Ira Hayes.
Ira Hayes was tormented by survivor's guilt. He didn't want to be treated like a star for pushing up a flag pole while his buddies were dying. He truly loathed everything connected to his government-induced/mandated celebrity - but not because his photographic image was being used to raise morale, as I understand it. He just didn't want to sleep at the Waldorf while his buddies were sleeping with one eye open in a hole in the ground.
Did Jessica Lynch have to go on the Today Show and other programs because the Army required her to? I honestly don't know. I always thought that stuff was to promote her book.
She presents sort of a mixed message, I think.
I think you may be wrong. The stories coming out of Morgantown this week are to the effect she is nervous about beginning school. She is 22 years old, entering with those who will be 17 and 18. She expressed the desire to fit in, not to stand out.
Her lifelong dream was to teach kindergarten. Part of the reason for entering the military was because she was from RURAL Palestine WV which does not have much of an economy. She needed the money to finally realize her dream.
I say good for her, and if now she gets a free education, in addition to what she has been through, whether the military pays it, or whether it is by special order of the Governor as some have speculated, then it is fine by me.
I think it would do some good to look at the things she has done, not just for herself, but for the friend who made the ultimate sacrifice.
Lynch is permanantly disabled due to her treatment by the Iraqis, and ANY of you disabled vets know that the injury is not the only nightmare that she lives with.
Shame on you.
Most Freepers don't drink revisionist Kool Aid.
Do yourself a favor and get an education before making such foolish remarks.
Using your fecal logic the entire battle of Iwo Jima was "choreographed".
Well since she slept through most of it....aw f' it.
Around here it's Cowboy up or go sit in the truck. I outlived 8 guys in "war". I got over it.
I can hear it now:
"Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me... if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after humpin' a coatrack."
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