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LIVE THREAD: Post-Debate Cheney v. Edwards ^ | October 5, 2004

Posted on 10/05/2004 7:38:10 PM PDT by Howlin

After-debate discussion here!

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To: Mo1

I don't think I remember someone getting whooped this bad. In fact, Chris Matthews indicated that Bush had a smirk, but Edwards looked on his face like he'd been physically smacked.

961 posted on 10/05/2004 9:20:07 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: flaglady47

I've been way into Cheney since day one. The guy is smolderingly hot.

962 posted on 10/05/2004 9:20:10 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Barlowmaker

I challenge that the President must present things correctly. If he needs to slap sKerry around in a partisan way so what.If he keeps up with this "above the fray"mentality and does not adequately engage (read attack/assail/demolish) sKerry then he risks reelection and thusly any opportunity to save lives (Democrat and Republican alike).

Sometimes folks have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the right way of dealing with something so he absolutely has the right/duty to say any true thing to any liberal at any time to continue on the path to victory against the muderous Islamikazis.

I would furthermore state that WHILE we have brave servicemen and women in harms way the duty to DO WHAT IT TAKES is paramount in the C inC. He needs to have his moral clarity and utter belief in the path we are taking dripping off of him like the sweat on that lightwieght, Sledwards, brow.

I think the people need to see the Bush that said,"The people that did this are going to hear from all of us soon".While it seems silly to those of us that watch it closely, some of the swingers may be paying attention for the first time in a while.They don't only need to hear about a hardnosed warrior mentality,bent on the destruction of all who would do us harm , but they need to see it and see it and see it again right up until the polls close.

They need to know FOR CERTAIN, that a vote for sKerry puts the war on terror and thier very lives at risk. He wasn't a warrior in Nam, his time afterwards reeks of cowardice,his senate carreer is as mottled and vaccilating as the man himself and his capaign has just reiteratted all of these qualities.
So Bush is doing the right thing if he levels him in the next debate and the wrong thing if he "stays above it all".

963 posted on 10/05/2004 9:20:24 PM PDT by ping jockey ("It only takes $.13 to do the job right")
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To: Yaelle
It is best not to participate in these polls. It will swing the vote more than it is already and the networks would look ridiculous reporting a result like - Edwards 98% and Cheney 2%. MSNBC is already telling viewers that it is very unscientific poll.
964 posted on 10/05/2004 9:20:42 PM PDT by Datom
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Like the bad guys said after wounding Matt Dillon on one of those return to movies: " Those old wolves have a way of coming back to bite you."

965 posted on 10/05/2004 9:20:59 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Be brainy, not zany, re-elect Bush and Cheney!!!!!!!!)
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To: antisocialista

I read the transcript and Cheney did say the wrong one, oops.

966 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:08 PM PDT by Raven281
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To: ping jockey

oh and Sledwards got his but STOMPED tonight.

967 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:19 PM PDT by ping jockey ("It only takes $.13 to do the job right")
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To: Dolphy
She asked a question about a significant problem to the black community.

It is a significant problem for America. Gwen was talking about black WOMEN. I thought she asked the question of Cheney in an accusatory manner. She asked what the government was going to do about it. Cheney allowed that he did not know that the AIDS rate was so high for black women, but that rate of infection was going down as a whole. I guess that feeds the impression that GWB doesn't care about the black community, especially black women.

Edwards said he would double the funding on AIDS.

968 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: misterrob
Yes, she did ask some good, tough questions of both of them, and I give her credit for that. For that reason alone she was vastly superior to Lehrer, with his "When did you stop beating your wife?" questions to President Bush, and his puffy little cotton balls that he lobbed so gently at Kerry. Still, she let Edwards get away with a lot of going over his time limit, going back to explain answers to questions that were already asked, going off on tangents not related to the questions, etc.

And letting Edwards get away with that despicable, underhanded ahot at the VP by using his daughter's homosexuality was inexcuseable. To his credit, Mr. Cheney handled that with far more class and dignity than I would have - I'd have come around that table and stomped Edwards into the ground.

In the end, though, it didn't matter - Dick Cheney demolished the Silky Pony.

969 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:35 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC (I'm running out of middle fingers to give to the hurricanes!)
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To: Howlin
CNN hacks were spewing the word draw within 2 minutes of the debate's end.
970 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:43 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Datom

I agree.

971 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:43 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: ProudVet77

Kerry Vs Miller?

How bout Kerry VS TEAM AMERICA?


972 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:49 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions~$1.00 Todays Special: Halfbaked~50. cents)
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To: The Hollywood Conservative
Now I agree... With that as the standard, I have to agree Bush lost Night 1... If he can do HALF as good on Friday as Cheney did tonight, Kerry Edwards will be a footnote in the history books.

How can you say that in light of the major gaffes Kerry made? Bilateral talks with NK? Global Test? Iraq is not a mistake vrs President Bush's colossal errors in judgment in invading Iraq. Nuke fuel for the Mullahs???? I'm telling you Kerry lost the election Thursday night. It just confirmed what most Freepers have always know.

Kerry is a 9-10 candidate in a 9-11 world. You Freepers have just got to get over your media drive fixation on style.
973 posted on 10/05/2004 9:21:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: The Drowning Witch

Sorry, my bad...

974 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:08 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote John Kerry-- Global Testicle....)
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To: JusPasenThru
"Was that "Your daughter is gay" remark about the lowest anyone has heard in the politcal realm?

YES. I cannot believe that the private life of VP Cheney's daughter was dragged into a national Vice Presidential Debate...(Mr Cheney was FAR TOO gracious in return.) I can't believe that nothing was said about it by Britt Humes follow-up panel either. Cheney must have stepped on Edwards head somewhere, because at that moment, we saw the underside of that trial-lawyer snake.

975 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:10 PM PDT by two23
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To: Clemenza
Ron "Finocchio" Reagan is applying what will become the Democratic mantra "this debate doesnt matter, it has changed no ones mind."

Which is spinmeister talk for "Edwards got his ass whupped".

976 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:21 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: kabar

Actually I was hoping Cheney would make note of the personal behavior aspect of it.

977 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:28 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Dolphy

What can the government do?? Black women are getting AIDS too much in this country from either cheating husbands or their own promiscuity. I feel very bad for the poor wives who get it innocently. The others should save sex for marriage and pick really well. Unfortunately, black (and white) popular culture pushes casual sex into everyone's faces.

978 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: shawngf
Because he was ranting on about preventative medicine..

I did! I even asked my husband if there was some new immunization shot no one has heard about yet?

979 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:37 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: mylife

PArker and Stone are on Leno talking about TEAM AMERICA

980 posted on 10/05/2004 9:22:38 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee (We could make up the news on FR, but we'd RATHER not!)
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