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"THE JOY OF '6': Lex line is top-rated subway."
The New York Post ^ | July 21, 2004 | Clemente Lisi

Posted on 07/24/2004 9:39:34 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid

Edited on 07/24/2004 10:05:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I don't know how many of you read this story in "The Post", or heard about on the local news, but The Straphangers Campaign has just released its annual "State of the Subways" report.

According to this article, the report "ranks each line based on what a $2 ride is really worth...based on Transit Authority data from the last six months of 2003."

Not surprisingly, the two trains that I use most frequently while doing interborough or intraborough commuting, the R and N train, are assigned the lowest ranking in this survey. A ride on each train is worth ninety and eighty cents, respectively.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arrives; busfare; dirty; for; godot; mta; never; nyc; nypirg; on; slow; straphanger; time; trains; waiting
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
here's the closest we get.
41 posted on 07/24/2004 10:57:14 AM PDT by glock rocks (will you tell me a story?)
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To: King Prout

Seems to be one of the few things France can do right.


42 posted on 07/24/2004 11:00:59 AM PDT by Darksheare (Road Killed Beeber Association, paving the world, one troll at a time...)
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To: glock rocks; Darksheare; mtman; Victoria Delsoul
Well, it's definitely more scenic than the view you get from an elevated line in my city, or any other for that matter.

Rocky Moutain High...

-John Denver.

43 posted on 07/24/2004 11:03:03 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

The pic is on campus at the U of U.

The lawn on the left side of the picture borders where Fort Douglas was built and site of the Olympic Village for 2002.


44 posted on 07/24/2004 11:08:11 AM PDT by glock rocks (will you tell me a story?)
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To: PAR35

That was the 7 train. :o)


45 posted on 07/24/2004 11:11:38 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: glock rocks; ARCADIA
I always wondered what happened to those venues after the Olympics were over.
46 posted on 07/24/2004 11:12:10 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid; Clemenza; PARodrig; rmlew
The joy of living and working in Brooklyn is that I don't have to deal with the subway. I get to drive my truck to most destinations. Except when I have to go into Manhattan, then I have to take the sub.

The problem with New York city is that in the outer boroughs mass transit sucks. The subways all head towards Manhattan and there are no cross borough lines to connect the lines. The result is that if you don't have a car in the outer boroughs, getting around is a pain.

47 posted on 07/24/2004 11:13:14 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: The Scourge of Yazid; Solamente
My fav lines are still the 1/9 for non-express service. Sure its crowded by there are several trains running. The 6 is ALWAYS packed, being the only local on the East Side.

The N(ever) and R(arely) going through Brooklyn are the WORST. Poor service, frequent stops due to "congestion" and the most run-down stations in the city.

48 posted on 07/24/2004 11:14:26 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Clemenza; Cacique; arasina; StarFan; GOPman
In terms of availability and frequency, I think that the N gets a bad rap.

Just based on anecdotal evidence, the N is pretty good in lower Manhattan and Brooklyn.

As for the R, my preferred method is intensive prayer.

I think that God is the only person who can ameliorate that situation.

I agree that the system is way too Manhattan-centric.

49 posted on 07/24/2004 11:19:18 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: quidnunc

Hey Quid, this is off the subject, but the only time in my life I heard this name was when I went to camp quidnunc as a kid. It was somewhere near Bear Mountain???


50 posted on 07/24/2004 11:21:23 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
You can't let this thread die in it's 20s. It's just plain cruel!

Help me out folks.

Consider doing a "Compare and Contrast". Montreal's subway system? Clean and well-lighted. London's Tube? Is it still filthy doity? :o)

51 posted on 07/24/2004 11:22:23 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina; MadIvan; headsonpikes
You'd have to ask a Brit, or someone who travels frequently.

According to my father, the Montreal trains are very good, but he hasn't been back since the early 70s, so it might have changed since then.

I really don't know.

52 posted on 07/24/2004 11:25:52 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid; Lazamataz

How about the BART in San Francisco?

Better question is...why am I posting on your strange but loveable thread? Is The Scourge of Yazid in a contest of wits with Lazamataz?


53 posted on 07/24/2004 11:28:29 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

The Scourge of Yazid wrote:

C'mon guys!

I know that most of you would rather be given a root canal at the hands of Kim Jong-il than respond to one of my threads, but still...

You can't let this thread die in it's 20s. It's just plain cruel!





It ain't that!

I just don't live in a place where there is decent mass transit!

We have a few busses: they are horrible.

The underground in Toronto impresses me. So does London.



54 posted on 07/24/2004 11:28:36 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: clyde260
clyde260 wrote: Hey Quid, this is off the subject, but the only time in my life I heard this name was when I went to camp quidnunc as a kid. It was somewhere near Bear Mountain???

I'll take your word for it, though I never suspected that such a thing as Camp Quidnunc existed.

I won't even ask what the camp activities were like there.

55 posted on 07/24/2004 11:29:35 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: arasina; Lazamataz; RightWingAtheist; King Prout; Bacon Man; Xenalyte; Darksheare; weegee
C'mon!

That's not even a contest!

My wits take performance-enhancing steroids.

Oops!

I probably shouldn't have let that one slip, huh?

56 posted on 07/24/2004 11:32:17 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: tiamat; Black Bart; AngieGOP; Dan from Michigan; Train_man
I understand.

I bet there isn't even a cool nickname for the trains that run in Michigan, like BART or SIRTOA.

My sympathies.

57 posted on 07/24/2004 11:37:13 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: arasina
arasina wrote: Consider doing a "Compare and Contrast". Montreal's subway system? Clean and well-lighted. London's Tube? Is it still filthy doity? :o)

I haven't been to London for five years or so, but then the Underground varied a lot from station to station and line to line.

The trains and platforms of the really busy lines like District were not as clean as the less-busy lines like Bakerloo and Victoria.

58 posted on 07/24/2004 11:37:16 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

No trains. Busses.

The things that run around Ann Arbor call themselves "The Ride".

When i was a kid, there was "SEMTA" ( South East Michigan Transportation Authority) More busses, but they were cheap, safe and went everywhere.

Also timely. I rode them a lot.


59 posted on 07/24/2004 11:47:44 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: tiamat; Solamente; cyborg; NYC GOP Chick; Nitro; NYCVirago; Clemenza; Waco
I guess I feel less nervous on buses.

The subway is another matter entirely.

60 posted on 07/24/2004 11:57:33 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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