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"THE JOY OF '6': Lex line is top-rated subway."
The New York Post ^ | July 21, 2004 | Clemente Lisi

Posted on 07/24/2004 9:39:34 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid

Edited on 07/24/2004 10:05:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I don't know how many of you read this story in "The Post", or heard about on the local news, but The Straphangers Campaign has just released its annual "State of the Subways" report.

According to this article, the report "ranks each line based on what a $2 ride is really worth...based on Transit Authority data from the last six months of 2003."

Not surprisingly, the two trains that I use most frequently while doing interborough or intraborough commuting, the R and N train, are assigned the lowest ranking in this survey. A ride on each train is worth ninety and eighty cents, respectively.

Article here


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: arrives; busfare; dirty; for; godot; mta; never; nyc; nypirg; on; slow; straphanger; time; trains; waiting
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It would be interesting to know your thoughts on the matter.

Is Paul Fleuranges right to object to: "the survey's methodology" and "with how some of the data is used?"

Here are some of the criteria that were used to assess the value of a train ride.

1. Cleanliness

2. Scheduled service

3. Regularity of arrivals

4. Breakdowns

5. mechanical failures

and,

6. Chance of getting a seat during rush hour.

1 posted on 07/24/2004 9:39:36 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Thanks for the links!


2 posted on 07/24/2004 9:44:17 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes; NYC GOP Chick; cyborg; rmlew; LaserLock; NYCVirago; areafiftyone; Fedora; lavrenti; ..
Thanks.

I only link in extremis.

Believe me, if I knew how to link to articles...

Well, I still probably wouldn't do it, but then again, I'm just a bastard like that.

What can you do?

3 posted on 07/24/2004 9:49:20 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Crime/risk of crime should be added to the list.


4 posted on 07/24/2004 9:54:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

The lex line is great, all those IRT trains really fly. Also the D train is pretty good once it gets north of 42nd Street. We used to take it to Yankee Stadium all the time. You can get there in a flash.

The NYC subway system is a great system of Mass transit. I hear things are even better in Europe, but I wonder if there is a better system in the US. One thing planners elsewhere would do well to remember (Hudson-Bergen Light Rail people and NJT Bus Operators, I'm talking to you) is that to be really an alternative to cars mass transit systems MUST run 24 hours a day.


5 posted on 07/24/2004 9:55:47 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

When I lived in NYC I found the Number 6 to be clean, fast and efficient. OTOH, the Number 2 was just that. :o)


6 posted on 07/24/2004 9:56:58 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: PAR35; Clemenza; Solamente; cyborg; nycgambit; thoughtomator; Darksheare; mandingo republican; ...
Possibly.

To be honest though, I can't stand those people who get shot a couple of times through the chest or head and go whining to the press.

I mean, if Curtis Sliwa can take it, they should be able to also.

Am I being too callous here?

7 posted on 07/24/2004 9:59:13 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Am I being too callous here?

*** Yes :)


8 posted on 07/24/2004 10:00:32 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
It's been a few years since I've been on a NYC subway. Quite the experience! Especially when one I was on broke down in a tunnel on the way out to Queens. Yikes!
9 posted on 07/24/2004 10:01:08 AM PDT by Happygal (Kerry has a chin that could chop cabbage in a glass!)
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To: jocon307; arasina; StarFan; kellynla; doug from upland; SoCal Pubbie; So Cal Rocket; ...
I agree wholeheartedly.

I've never actually visited Los Angeles, but supposedly they have a pretty decent system of mass transit.

Unfortunately, not many people use it, so it serves more as a massive public spending boondoggle than an effective way of transporting people from one place to another.

Also, the way Los Angeles is mapped out is vastly different from New York.

I suppose that it's easier to commute long distances by car in L.A. Then again, I've never been there, so I wouldn't know the specific logistics involved.

10 posted on 07/24/2004 10:04:12 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid; headsonpikes
Here's the link:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212004/news/regionalnews/25444.htm

11 posted on 07/24/2004 10:04:46 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Happygal
Yeah, that's one of the reasons my father stopped taking them after 9/11.
12 posted on 07/24/2004 10:05:31 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: quidnunc
Thanks!

I really appreciate the help.

13 posted on 07/24/2004 10:06:07 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
Okay, what are we doing here?  Talking about our commutes with public transit maybe?  That's what I'm going to do.
 
I usually start by taking the 23 bus up to the Market East station.  The reasons for this are:
1.  It's only a half a block walk.
2.  There's a six foot Glamazon that oftentimes rides that bus and a nurse who's smoking hot that I like to stalk.
3.  I use a day pass and the cow at the subway booth takes, literally about 3 minutes to process my day pass and missing a train while she's looking around for her stamp gets me in a psycotic mood.  Not a good way to start the day.
4.  Sometimes, the bus driver doesn't want to deal with processing the daypass and just hands me a transfer.  When that happens, I've figured out a way to re-use the daypass time and again.  For some reason, when I just pay the fair and the transfer, it never works out.  Somebody always takes the day pass and stamps the hell out of it.  So when I'm just handed the transfer, I take it.
 
Either way, I pick up the el and past city hall it's virtually empty.  I always sit on the north side to keep the sun off me.
 
Then, I get on the Route 100 trolly (the old main line).  There's this really slutty looking latina chick with an amazing body that I like to stalk.  She usually stands at the back of the train so if I can get an aisle seat on the north, maybe second from the back, well, it just doesn't get any better than that.
 
Then I take the 95 bus.  That's a short ride and most of the drivers blast the a/c so I'm pretty good there.  They always drop me off on the corner rather than at the bus stop and that's a lot closer to my office.
 
The way home is pretty much the same thing, except I almost never see the slutty latina chick.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

14 posted on 07/24/2004 10:06:34 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (France, because the moral compass of humanity needs a butt end.)
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Libra:

You'll continue to be tormented by the sight of tiny symbols which, when viewed, cause you to hear words in your head.

-by Lloyd Schumner Sr.

Retired Machinist and A.A.P.B.-Certified Astrologer.

15 posted on 07/24/2004 10:11:56 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

*wincing*
Owwie, what wusses.
I took a staple to the shoulder and lived to tell and laugh about it.

Last time I rode a subway, there was this annoying and painful high pitched dog-whistle sounding screech during the entire ride.


16 posted on 07/24/2004 10:13:02 AM PDT by Darksheare (Road Killed Beeber Association, paving the world, one troll at a time...)
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To: Owl_Eagle

OMG, you had to deal wiuth the booth cow?!
I'd suspect that she should be put to pasture, but I doubt that's gonna happen.


17 posted on 07/24/2004 10:14:45 AM PDT by Darksheare (Road Killed Beeber Association, paving the world, one troll at a time...)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
Karsh Kentu:

I'm already haunted by odd symbols and weird words in my head.
Like one that appears to say "Sichy Sichiyi" and I end up craving chocolate ice cream.

18 posted on 07/24/2004 10:16:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (Road Killed Beeber Association, paving the world, one troll at a time...)
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Jeniffer Lopez:

Who you calling a slut chico? I oughta shove this size 8 heel up your a**! If I weren't such a friggin' lady, I would, ya know?

19 posted on 07/24/2004 10:18:17 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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Inaudible and/or unintelligible voice of train conductor:

BZZZZ. BLUUURRFFF! NNNNNIIICCCKKK! PLEASE-FGGKL;KLJK';KJ IN YOUR-LKLKJLJKJL:jLK! Have a nice-lk;jkljioujiuhjio232387y9780!

(A string of inaudible words follows.)

20 posted on 07/24/2004 10:23:06 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?" (Philip K. Dick.)
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