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AI Detects Unusual Signal Hidden in a Famous Raphael Masterpiece
Science Alert ^ | December 30, 2023 | David Nield

Posted on 12/29/2023 7:57:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Scholars have in fact long debated whether or not the painting is a Raphael original... a new method of analysis based on an AI algorithm has sided with those who think at least some of the strokes were at the hand of another artist.

Researchers from the UK and US developed a custom analysis algorithm based on the works that we know are the result of the Italian master's brushwork...

Machine learning processes typically need to be trained on a vast pool of examples, something which isn't always available when it comes to a sole artist's life work. In this case, the team modified pre-trained architecture developed by Microscoft called ResNet50, coupled with a traditional machine learning technique called a Support Vector Machine.

The method has previously been shown to have a 98 percent accuracy level when it comes to identifying Raphael paintings. Usually, it's trained on whole pictures, but here the team also asked it to look at individual faces.

While the Madonna, the Child, and St John all show up as being created from the hand of Raphael, that's not the case of St Joseph. The researchers note that in previous debates over the painting's authenticity, St Joseph's face has been thought to be less well done than the others in the frame...

Giulio Romano, one of Raphael's pupils, may have been responsible for the fourth face, but that's by no means certain. It's another example of modern technology revealing the secrets of classic paintings – this time with AI.

The Madonna della Rosa was painted on canvas in the years 1518 to 1520, experts think. It was in the mid-1800s that art critics started to suspect that Raphael might not have painted all of the artwork.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencealert.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ai; godsgravesglyphs; madonnadellarosa; madonnaoftherose; middleages; painting; prado; raphael; renaissance
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One of these faces is not like the others.
Museo Nacional del Prado
Museo Nacional del Prado

1 posted on 12/29/2023 7:57:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 12/29/2023 8:01:38 PM PST by DannyTN
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That wouldnt’ be surprising to find that some of the works of the Masters were created through some sort of assembly line in order to pump out paintings for the maximum dollar.

Also, lesser artists would have been apprentices and they probably helped out where they could.


3 posted on 12/29/2023 8:05:53 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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4 posted on 12/29/2023 8:12:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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“That wouldnt’ be surprising to find that some of the works of the Masters were created through some sort of assembly line in order to pump out paintings for the maximum dollar.”

Agree, plenty of paintings are attributed to e.g., Rembrandt or his school.


5 posted on 12/29/2023 8:16:26 PM PST by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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Yes, it was customary for assistants to do the less difficult parts of the painting, such as background figures. The artist did the most important parts, such as the hands, the hair, and the faces.


6 posted on 12/29/2023 8:23:32 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: SunkenCiv

Can’t an painter’s brushwork change over the course of time, or due to illness or partial disability?


7 posted on 12/29/2023 8:23:55 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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“St Joseph’s face has been thought to be less well done than the others in the frame...”

Joseph didn’t get much write-up in the Bible either. Seems intentional - in both the Bible and the painting. For good reason. No slight against Joseph, but he wasn’t a main figure in the story.


8 posted on 12/29/2023 8:26:34 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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I’ve got to get that AI to check out my favorite painting. The seller told me that it was painted by Renoir, but I’m not so sure.


9 posted on 12/29/2023 8:28:37 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

and so in today’s world of major issues confronting the continuance of the USA as a Constitutional Republic, this ranks in importance on a scale from 1-10 as a 1? Thanks as info and consideration ,,,


10 posted on 12/29/2023 8:29:22 PM PST by ldish (This ILLEGAL Govt is incompetent - WHO REALLY PULLS THE STRINGS IN THIS MAFIA?)
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It was Billy Bob Renoir. He used to live in Phenix City, Alabama.


11 posted on 12/29/2023 8:31:20 PM PST by Publius
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To: Dr. Sivana

AI working overtime for humanity - that we appreciate now to the border question like we don’t know the one single answer already!


12 posted on 12/29/2023 8:32:16 PM PST by ldish (This ILLEGAL Govt is incompetent - WHO REALLY PULLS THE STRINGS IN THIS MAFIA?)
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To: 21twelve

St Joseph = The Ringo Star of The Holy Family:
Not that there’s anything wrong with that!


13 posted on 12/29/2023 8:32:59 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Dr. Sivana

yes


14 posted on 12/29/2023 8:34:19 PM PST by ldish (This ILLEGAL Govt is incompetent - WHO REALLY PULLS THE STRINGS IN THIS MAFIA?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

yes


15 posted on 12/29/2023 8:35:53 PM PST by ldish (This ILLEGAL Govt is incompetent - WHO REALLY PULLS THE STRINGS IN THIS MAFIA?)
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To: SunkenCiv
Museo Nacional del Prado


16 posted on 12/29/2023 8:35:58 PM PST by chief lee runamok ( Le Flâneur @Large)
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sure... but over the course of a painting? prolly not


17 posted on 12/29/2023 8:37:29 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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It’s odd that this is considered ‘news’...


18 posted on 12/29/2023 8:44:26 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Rubbish in, rubbish out!

ChatGPT still makes illegal chess moves.

Don’t believe a word of their tripe.


19 posted on 12/29/2023 8:45:05 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Leaning Right

Have no fears my friend. That’s definitely a Renoir.


20 posted on 12/29/2023 8:45:59 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes officer, I saw the speed limit sign. I just didn't see you.)
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