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Should women be banned from the armed forces? If so, why? ["inherent biological differences...the biggest factor is our biological programming to be protective of women"]
quora.com ^ | Jan 6, 2023 | Beni Habzay Former [Isreali] Infantry soldier

Posted on 09/23/2023 1:12:35 PM PDT by daniel1212

Yes! And I [the author] say this as someone who served in an army that boasts about its female soldiers.

So I hope that even if you disagree with me, you'll bear with me and read till the end…

FACT TIME

* The Israeli defense forces stopped using actual female combat soldiers after 1948. This was when they noticed that coed combat units suffered close to 50% higher casualty rates than all male units, and were worlds less effective when it came to mission completion.

* Due to this fact, women were barred from all combat roles in the IDF until several co-ed units were created in 1990 at the behest of progressive politicians.

* The remaining co-ed infantry units in the IDF are purely ornamental.

The males who joined these units join them because they couldn't cut it to be in the regular combat units, the females who join these units are the cream of the crop and still are outperformed by the substandard males.

I could go on and on about the inherent biological differences making men stronger and more durable than women, but at the end of the day, the biggest factor is our biological programming to be protective of women, not the fact that we can lift more than they do.

If a tribe or a village loses half its male population in a war, they can bounce back. But if that same tribe or village loses half of their female population, then they will not survive the next generation. I would even make the case that man's desire to protect his mother, his wife, his children and grandchildren born and unborn; are our biggest driving factors for putting ourselves out there and doing it dangerous job because it needs to be done.


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So much for gender fluidity. But what is ignored in the article is that the male is ordained of God to be the unselfish leaders in the martial and family unit (and by extension, in society at large), after the divine order.

1 posted on 09/23/2023 1:12:35 PM PDT by daniel1212
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So much for gender fluidity. But what is ignored in the article is that the male is ordained of God to be the unselfish leaders in the martial and family unit (and by extension, in society at large), after the divine order.

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. (1 Corinthians 11:3)

And sometimes the women must force the man to fulfill his role, and sometimes women must do so when men will not.

Related. ARE WOMEN PASTORS BIBLICAL

2 posted on 09/23/2023 1:17:22 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: daniel1212

Not barred from the military but certain MOS’s in the combat arms should not be open to them...


3 posted on 09/23/2023 1:17:26 PM PDT by montanajoe ( )
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To: daniel1212

Put wimen where they are used best. On the field is never the best.


4 posted on 09/23/2023 1:20:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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To: daniel1212

The relationship between men and women is, or should be symbiotic but in battle, leave it to men.

Never been in war but taught martial arts long enough. We’re just stronger. Women are much more graceful but that gracefulness is worthless in the brutality of battle.


5 posted on 09/23/2023 1:21:16 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner

They get infections.


6 posted on 09/23/2023 1:22:46 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: montanajoe
"Not barred from the military but certain MOS’s in the combat arms should not be open to them....

I couldn't have said it better.

Also, the military is no place for social experimenting!

7 posted on 09/23/2023 1:23:13 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: daniel1212

Mother’s with children should not be placed in the battlefield zones. I’d go a step further in that No mothers should be serving in the military, period.


8 posted on 09/23/2023 1:23:17 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: montanajoe

Barred almost entirely from the military, as it was until 1972 or before.

What combat leader would not want to replace his man warriors with a shorter, lighter, weaker, sicklier, less aggressive, slower moving, more terrain limited, reduced distance traveling, hygienically vulnerable, smaller weight carrying, more prone to injury, version.

He would have to rewrite all the knowledge and experience, of what his troops are capable of and reduce all that accordingly, and simply eliminate some capabilities entirely, but a fair enemy would not seek to capitalize on those advantages of course.


9 posted on 09/23/2023 1:24:29 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: airborne

Agree...


10 posted on 09/23/2023 1:27:40 PM PDT by montanajoe ( )
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To: daniel1212

I guess it all depends on whether or not the guys are allowed to have sex with them.


11 posted on 09/23/2023 1:27:40 PM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: daniel1212

Call me a chauvinist, but women should not be in the front lines of military or law enforcement.


12 posted on 09/23/2023 1:27:50 PM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: daniel1212

“...head of Christ is God..”

Where in the non-trinitarian tarnation did you come up with that one.


13 posted on 09/23/2023 1:27:58 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: daniel1212

The presence of and participation of women in the military is destroying it.

All the “if they can do the job”—”as long as standards stay the same”—”not in combat units”—”on an individual basis”—etc. arguments are more than 50 years old now since we made the change in 1972, yet people keep repeating them or coming up with them.


14 posted on 09/23/2023 1:29:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: montanajoe

+1

5.56mm


15 posted on 09/23/2023 1:29:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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To: daniel1212

Should women be banned from the armed forces? That’s debatable. What’s not debatable is the banning of trannies and others of a sexual perversion. I can see this demoralizing any unit.


16 posted on 09/23/2023 1:30:11 PM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: daniel1212

Certainly from certain roles.

But that should have been obvious all along.


17 posted on 09/23/2023 1:30:16 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: daniel1212

No, the armed forces should be primarily women. Diversity is our strength.

Think of what an excellent example we could be for the rest of the world!

Men have served and died a hugely disproportionate amount since the very beginning.


18 posted on 09/23/2023 1:34:09 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: kenmcg

Let’s throw in firefighting while we’re at it.


19 posted on 09/23/2023 1:37:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: daniel1212

While I understand your reasoning, I disagree with your conclusion.

Not only should women continue to be allowed to serve, they should also be required to register for the draft.

Women should, however, be banned from all COMBAT ROLES, including serving on Navy warships and submarines, and flying combat aircraft.

As an Air Force veteran who served alongside women, there are many roles that women can fill, including the electronics repair shop job that I performed.

Women can wield a soldering irin just as well as a man, which results in freeing A MAN to fill a frontline combat role.


20 posted on 09/23/2023 1:41:31 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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