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Does America oppose female genital mutilation – or not?
https://spectator.us ^ | November 21, 2018 | Douglas Murray

Posted on 11/21/2018 6:52:04 AM PST by Enterprise

‘The historic case involves minor girls from Michigan, Illinois and Minnesota, including some who cried, screamed and bled during the procedure and one who was given Valium ground in liquid Tylenol to keep her calm, court records show.’

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‘The judge’s ruling also dismissed charges against three mothers, including two Minnesota women whom prosecutors said tricked their 7-year-old daughters into thinking they were coming to metro Detroit for a girls’ weekend, but instead had their genitals cut at a Livonia clinic as part of a religious procedure.’

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"US District Judge Bernard Friedman ruled that ‘as despicable as this practice may be,’ the US Congress did not have the authority to pass the 22-year-old federal law that criminalizes FGM, and that it is for the individual states to regulate the matter."

The roar of the outraged feminists is (fill in the blank) __________________.

1 posted on 11/21/2018 6:52:04 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

silenced because it’s not white men doing the crime.

Those ####s.

America FREQUENTLY does not want what a judge decrees.

Isn’t there ANY process when a judge behaves in what may be considered Gross, Gross conduct?

Since his reasoning was mutilation was deemed a crime at the federal level and they didn’t have the authority, can’t the feds argue against them and try them under violation of civil rights?

i don’t like double jeopardy either but it exists and maybe should be used here.


2 posted on 11/21/2018 6:57:12 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Enterprise
I think you'd haft'a outlaw tattoos to have this any kind of a legal issue.

Get rid of muzzies and the problem solves itself

3 posted on 11/21/2018 6:57:18 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: Enterprise

I actually don’t disagree with the judge. There is nothing within Congress’s enumerated powers authorizing legislation prohibiting genital mutilation.

Funny that the federal judiciary waited until NOW to rediscover the enumerated powers doctrine, though.


4 posted on 11/21/2018 6:57:54 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Enterprise

This judge’s bizarre thinking and actions are what passes for “progressive” jurisprudence in modern day America. Its not just him. Its the mindset of what is happening in most law schools and at its core reflects the hedonistic values that are now common among all too many. Its no accident that Democrats get elected.


5 posted on 11/21/2018 6:59:17 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: The Pack Knight

And the women’s rights organizations are saying....??

crickets....


6 posted on 11/21/2018 6:59:32 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: Enterprise

The judge made the right decision here. There would have been no Federal crime if these women had killed their daughters ... so what makes “genital mutilation “ such a pressing Federal matter?


7 posted on 11/21/2018 7:00:18 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Enterprise

Would any medical experts weigh in on his question...

Is it possible to repair the damage to the girls female anatomy to enable her to have sexual feelings in that area or does it depend on just how much was removed etc ???


8 posted on 11/21/2018 7:01:49 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: CondorFlight

Of course. Muslims rank above women generally on the “intersectionality” totem pole. Current feminism holds that it’s more important to be an “ally” for Muslims than to stick up for women.


9 posted on 11/21/2018 7:02:11 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Enterprise

Hey, I’ve already been re-edjumakated by the Social Justice Warriors.

Female Circumcision is an important cultural treasure!
Just like plate lips, necks stretched out with rings, and Chinese foot binding.

We have NO place to judge, because all cultures are equal after all!

/sarc


10 posted on 11/21/2018 7:04:37 AM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: Enterprise

Only those Americans that understand the true nature of Islam

Those who believe the lies about Islam being a religion of peace will never understand that it is at war with the rest of humanity as it has been since 622 A.D.

John Quincy Adams on Islam

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).


11 posted on 11/21/2018 7:04:43 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Enterprise

Let me get this right. The judge says it is OK for me to cut off my son’s ears? (same logic applies)


12 posted on 11/21/2018 7:05:19 AM PST by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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To: CondorFlight

that’s because the moslems call this procedure ‘female circumcision’ to fool the infidels...

Plus the view types are too scared to say anything against any practice of the moslems...

the moslems could shoot their daughters dead in Times Square in an ‘honor killing’ and the libs would go “AWWWW how cute”


13 posted on 11/21/2018 7:05:45 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: IC Ken

No. The judge says — correctly — that such a thing would not be a FEDERAL crime.


14 posted on 11/21/2018 7:08:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: dp0622

Female genital mutilation falls under the heading of “cruel and unusual punishment”.

There are also many laws on the books EVERYWHERE regarding the non-consensual inflicting of mutilation or injury to persons who may be constrained and in a position of helplessness, against their will.

This is no better than poking out an eye with a white-hot iron.

Pretty sure that is mot a permissible act, even to extract information from a suspect in a crime.


15 posted on 11/21/2018 7:09:57 AM PST by alloysteel (To try and fail, that is glorious. To never try at all, that is ignominy, far worse than failure.)
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To: Enterprise

Why aren’t the pink pussy hats out protesting this?


16 posted on 11/21/2018 7:10:01 AM PST by LydiaLong
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To: Enterprise

In a liberal judge’s court a parent cannot stop their child from doing something stupid if that parent is Christian.
But a parent can mutliate their child if that parent i a Muslim.

This will not stand, and sooner or later such judges will have to start worrying at night.


17 posted on 11/21/2018 7:10:49 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Enterprise

Arguably he is right.
How is this a Federal issue? Did the doctor or patient cross state lines or something?
It is a local and state issue, and the bastards who run the states don’t have the guts to make and enforce laws against FGM.


18 posted on 11/21/2018 7:14:10 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: IC Ken

We protest for yeas that judges must not make law now we complain that they do not

This should have been in state court


19 posted on 11/21/2018 7:14:29 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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silenced because it’s not white men doing the crime.

Pretty much every liberal social crusade goes away when non-whites and non-western cultures are involved.

Feminism is an important cause when conservatives don't want to pay for some college girl's birth control pills. But when Muslims treat women worse than they treat cattle, that's just a beautiful aspect of another culture.

Along the same lines, liberals are all up in arms when a Christian baker won't sell a homo couple a cake for their homo-wedding, but don't have much to say when homosexuals are decapitated or thrown off towers in Muslim countries.

Even liberal "environmentalism" is very selective. They attack western societies for being "polluters" and for "overpopulation" (even though Western societies have the lowest rates of population growth and the most stringent controls on pollution in the world), but to say the same thing against any non-Western country would be "racist imperialism."

What we can conclude from this is that no liberal pet cause - women's lib, gay rights, the environment is really a sincere cause. They're just an excuse to destroy western societies, which is what liberalism is really all about.

20 posted on 11/21/2018 7:15:00 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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