Redazione ANSA Naples
Posted on 03/20/2018 3:22:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
An ancient port in Naples, believed to be the harbour 25 centuries ago when it was called Palepolis by the Greeks who ousted the Etruscans, has been discovered in the sea off the iconic Castel dell'Ovo, archaeologists said Thursday.
Underwater archaeologists have found four submerged tunnels, a three-metre-wide street with cart-furrows still there and a long trench for soldiers, six meters down to the right of the castle, Neapolitan archaeologist Mario Negri said...
The first settlements in the area were made in the ninth century BC, nearly 3000 years ago, when Anatolian and Achaean merchants and travellers arrived in the gulf on their way to the mineral lands of the high Tyrrhenian and founded Parthenope in the area which includes the isle of Megaride (the present-day Castel dell'Ovo) and the Promontory of Monte Echia (the present-day Monte di Dio and Pizzofalcone)...
The supremacy gained by the Etruscans led to the inevitable decline of Parthenope, which was repopulated and rebuilt under the name of Palepolis round about 474 when the Greek settlers managed to establish their supremacy. This created a situation of greater freedom to settle on the coasts of Campania and found new settlements. Further south, a new and larger economic and commercial centre was built, protected by a system of towers and alterations. The new city was named Neapolis in Greek ("new city"), while the eastern part, including Palepolis, became a periphery far from the hubbub of the city, a place where one could stay in peace and quiet and, from the time of the Roman Empire, towards the end of the 1st century BC, the sumptuous patrician villas were built.
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Redazione ANSA Naples
The world’s biggest grave robbery: Asia’s disappearing WWII shipwrecks
Exclusive: the unmarked graves of thousands of sailors are threatened by illegal metal salvagers
By Oliver Holmes, Monica Ulmanu and Simon Roberts
Thu 2 Nov 2017 21.22 EDT Last modified on Tue 2 Jan 2018 10.05 EST
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/nov/03/worlds-biggest-grave-robbery-asias-disappearing-ww2-shipwrecks
[snip] Some ancient ships, often centuries-old Roman vessels in European waters, have also been salvaged for their lead, which is also low-radiation and is used in nuclear power stations. [/snip]
Would Palepolis by any chance mean “Old City “ to Neapolis’ “New City “?
Interesting. But unless it’s the Arizona or some other inshore, Navy protected vessel, or one so deep as to make it unpractical the odds are it will eventually be plundered. Time will make the offense less. Like the 17th Century hulks systematically searched for dubloons in the Caribbean and Florida coastal waters.
Heh, good guess!
The offending vessels have to be somewhat specialized, and should be simple to track from orbit. They need to be sunk and the survivors left for the sharks.
Well that would require governments ( USA, Japan, Britain) to do what you suggest. I can see the US taking the lead, but not being really put on the front burner. The whole Indonesia/Malaysia area is a pirate area. I would make an assumption that most ships sunk during the war were not war ships but transport vessels for war supplies. Of course one thinks of the battle of the Atlantic. Patriots manned those too. But the Atlantic isn’t the poverty stricken areas of the western Pacific/Indian ocean.
Not defending them. Just stating facts. I would welcome intervention by the war participants whose hero’s graves are being plundered. I just don’t see it happening to any great degree.
The ships Paul Allen is finding now are far too deep for a plunderer to get to. 0n the other hand, USS Houston, which went down in relatively shallow Dutch East Indies waters, has been hit, as have many Dutch and British ships sunk by the Japanese invaders. I agree there is a special place in hell for people who toss what is in reality a war grave.
That's true for now. I'd guess there are fewer than 50 subs capable of dives below one mile, and there are damned few military subs that will go deeper than one half mile. But remote controlled, self-propelled, very deep-diving drones will be in the hundreds within perhaps five years.
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