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Relax About the Polls
Self | August 16, 2016 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 08/16/2016 8:12:32 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

For those of you worried about the polls, I have one word---RELAX. First of all this is August so the polls can say anything they want plus many people are still not focused on the upcoming election. For that reason I automatically take whatever the polls say and conservatively deduct 3 points from Hillary and give 3 points to Trump.

In addition there is what is called the Shy Voter Effect. Those many voters shy of being ID'd as Trump supporters. I also call this the Reverse Bradley. Again, another 3 from Hillary and 3 to Trump.

Therefore if a poll shows Hillary leading by 10, I deduct 6 from Hillary and reward 6 to Trump with the net result that he leads by 2.

As final confirmation that the polls are complete BS, I give you the current NBC poll that shows that only 17% of all voters think Trump has the temperament to be president. And if you believe that then perhaps you should panic. Not over the what the polls say but over your own extreme gullibility.


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KEYWORDS: 2016polls; donaldtrump; hillaryclinton; polls
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To: PJ-Comix
Remember, in August 1988 Michael Dukakis had a HUGE lead over George H.W. Bush. By middle October 1988, it was gone and then some.

The MSM is propping up Hillary now, but even the MSM privately admit the issues with the Clinton Foundation and now increasingly her health could become a gigantic drag on her campaign by middle to late September if she can't increase her days per week rally schedule (Donald Trump is doing rallies on five to six days per week now). With modern social media and millions of camera-equipped cellphones out there, they can't hide her medical issues like how FDR hid most of his medical issues during his Presidency.

21 posted on 08/16/2016 8:44:02 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: PJ-Comix

I still don’t believe many people are undecided as of today.
Certainly not repubs & RATS and certainly not all independents.

It would take something earth-shattering (more wiki-leaks? or too many debate errors ?) for most to change their minds.


22 posted on 08/16/2016 8:45:55 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: PJ-Comix
Do you want to get Trump elected President?

Yes?

Then ASSUME THE POLLS ARE CORRECT.

Assume that Big Media is successfully propagandizing against him ... then get off your butt and work on persuading people to vote for him.

23 posted on 08/16/2016 8:46:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: PJ-Comix

Conservative “fat cats” should form a top notch polling organization and by following rigorous statistical techniques provide a standard by which other polls could be measured.


24 posted on 08/16/2016 8:46:50 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Last Dakotan

The 15% Democrat edge in the sample could reflect the margin of Democrats over Republicans in the area sampled.


25 posted on 08/16/2016 8:49:04 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: PROCON

I don’t worry about the polls.
Democrat voter fraud is what concerns me most.


That’s exactly right.


26 posted on 08/16/2016 8:56:39 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: NorthMountain
Assume that Big Media is successfully propagandizing against him ... then get off your butt and work on persuading people to vote for him.

I want the Curtis Lemay method of beating Hillary and her minions: assume that you will have to win 100-0 in order to win at all, and attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack until they lose unconditionally or are vanquished unconditionally.

27 posted on 08/16/2016 8:57:20 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: PJ-Comix

+1


28 posted on 08/16/2016 8:58:45 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Yes, I agree.

Saw a poll today saying Hillary was up by 14 points in VIRGINIA.

SO .. WHO LIVES IN VIRGINIA .. (I’m guessing) ABOUT 75 PERCENT OF THAT POPULATION IS DEMOCRAT BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE WORK IN D.C.

SO WHAT DOES THIS PROVE .. THE LEFT WILL TRY TO USE THIS 14 POINT MARGIN TO DECLARE THE ELECTION IS “OVER” ..!!!

DON’T FALL FOR IT.


29 posted on 08/16/2016 9:00:55 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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To: Frapster

Well .. I’d take Trump any day over ANY DEMOCRAT.


30 posted on 08/16/2016 9:04:25 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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To: PJ-Comix

My guess is the Obamacare numbers will be “delayed” until after the election.


31 posted on 08/16/2016 9:04:31 AM PDT by SteveO87
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To: PJ-Comix

Ok, so if the polls are right we still have hope.

Hillary could have a swallowing-her-tongue seizure during the debates.
Hillary could be indicted.
Hillary will finally be forced to admit the truth about Benghazi.
A Hillary email will be released of her and Huma in bed.
Media will suddenly change gears and support Trump.
Juanita Broderick will expose a secret tape of Bill Clinton raping her.
If all else fails, there is a prayer thread.


32 posted on 08/16/2016 9:10:25 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: PJ-Comix

Hillary is peaking


33 posted on 08/16/2016 9:13:15 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Remember the Court)
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To: RayChuang88
Remember, in August 1988 Michael Dukakis had a HUGE lead over George H.W. Bush. By middle October 1988, it was gone and then some.

Yeah, I remember that. I bet a friend $100 on that election. He was absolutely confident Dukakis would win and acting like he was going to take candy from a sucker. When Dukakis lost, my friend dropped out of sight. When I finally called him up to collect, his wife answered and said he suffered a heart attack and couldn't leave home. I never collected on that bet.

34 posted on 08/16/2016 9:16:40 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Tell It, Skinner, about your Slinton Cash Payoff Money)
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To: PJ-Comix

The polls for many an election cycle have been pretty accurate especially as you noted

The final month or so

The only thing might throw this off is Trump base enthusiasm which prolly is not weighed enough in polling data

And there is no question media driven polls are used to dampen anti democrat motivation

Proof of emails discussing that are out there


35 posted on 08/16/2016 9:16:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (black lives kill....and kill....and kill.....like no other race today senselessly)
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To: Sybeck1

“Hillary is peaking”

Hillary peaked about 20-30 years ago....oh, you mean in this campaign.


36 posted on 08/16/2016 9:16:53 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: SteveO87

Just watching Fox business numbers in many states are coming out already open enrollment is Nov1 many insurance companies are required to notify consumers of increases 60-90 days before they occur!!! These increases are coming out already some deductibles have reached the 12,000 dollar range this IS insanity!!! People WILL NOT pay HUGE premiums then STILL NOT be able to use insurance until 12,000 DEDUCTABLE is reached!!! Aetna pulled out today of ALL but four states, they had to report this do to requirements of state commissioners OBAMMIE CARE is DONE of course WE ALL KNEW this would be the case!!! The VERY SAD thing is the people that had cancer and such when this monstrosity was created have suffered or passed away due to being dragged away from their caregivers and treatment plans they were on!!! So many MORE people who had healthcare NOW HAVE NONE so the few who had NO healthcare could have healthcare that WE would pay for, WE pay for these losers and can’t afford to protect our own families I HATE these BASTARDS!!!


37 posted on 08/16/2016 9:24:36 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Frapster

Frankly, I think the whole “Trump gaffe” thing is largely overblown baloney. Trump says something true but which is outside the media-defined circle of “acceptable” discourse, the MSM and Dems and GOP establishment hyperventilate, and the media try to work up a fake tizzy about it.


38 posted on 08/16/2016 9:28:07 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

They won’t. The “conservative” fat cats are in the tank for Hillary too because she doesn’t threaten the open pipeline of cheap Mexican labour.


39 posted on 08/16/2016 9:30:51 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Sybeck1
Hillary is peaking

Mostly because the MSM can "hide" her faults now. What happens once the electioneering season becomes much more intense from Labor Day on? Especially if the Clinton campaign can't increase her weekly rally schedule? If Hillary is forced to only do campaign rallies four out of seven days a week like her current schedule, even the MSM will seriously start to ask questions about her own health.

40 posted on 08/16/2016 10:01:27 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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