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First DNA tests say Kennewick Man was Native American
The Seattle Times ^ | 17 Jan 2015 | Sandi Doughton

Posted on 01/18/2015 9:27:17 PM PST by Theoria

Nearly two decades after the ancient skeleton called Kennewick Man was discovered on the banks of the Columbia River, the mystery of his origins appears to be nearing resolution.

Genetic analysis is still under way in Denmark, but documents obtained through the federal Freedom of Information Act say preliminary results point to a Native-American heritage.

The researchers performing the DNA analysis “feel that Kennewick has normal, standard Native-American genetics,” according to a 2013 email to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is responsible for the care and management of the bones. “At present there is no indication he has a different origin than North American Native American.”

If that conclusion holds up, it would be a dramatic end to a debate that polarized the field of anthropology and set off a legal battle between scientists who sought to study the 9,500-year-old skeleton and Northwest tribes that sought to rebury it as an honored ancestor.

In response to The Seattle Times’ records request, geochemist Thomas Stafford Jr., who is involved in the DNA analysis, cautioned that the early conclusions could “change to some degree” with more detailed analysis. The results of those studies are expected to be published soon in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Stafford and Danish geneticist Eske Willerslev, who is leading the project at the University of Copenhagen, declined to discuss the work until then.

But other experts said deeper genetic sequencing is unlikely to overturn the basic determination that Kennewick Man’s closest relatives are Native Americans. The result comes as no surprise to scientists who study the genetics of ancient people, said Brian Kemp, a molecular anthropologist at Washington State University.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ainu; briankemp; columbiariver; denmark; dna; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; kennewickman; thomasstaffordjr
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To: Theoria
That should garnish a bazillion dollars in grant money....along with protests from the Indians which will cost another bazillion dollars.

They're going to go wild on this one.

21 posted on 01/19/2015 2:13:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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22 posted on 01/19/2015 2:16:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Theoria

Who knows who the Kenniwick Man is. It might be a different race that went extinct.


23 posted on 01/19/2015 2:48:18 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: GilesB

I wonder if Horses spend as much energy wondering about which breeds other horses are as we do wondering about and ascribing significance to what path our ancestors charted between the time they left Africa and the present day.


24 posted on 01/19/2015 3:01:20 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Michael.SF.

Probably not. The article says the skeleton dates about 9500 years old. The first Clovis Culture artifacts are dated to 12,000 years old. While there is still some controversy with them, some sites of human habitation date earlier than the first Clovis.


25 posted on 01/19/2015 3:18:10 AM PST by X Fretensis (IW)
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To: Theoria

This whole Kennewick Man saga seems like a “Full Employment” exercise for “Native American” activist, Anthropologists needing to “Publish or Perish” and Lawyers running out of ambulances & mesothelioma to chase.


26 posted on 01/19/2015 3:29:36 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: SunkenCiv

SOYLENT GREEN IS PURPLE!


27 posted on 01/19/2015 3:46:26 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Theoria
...the 9,500-year-old skeleton...

And still faithfully voting a straight Democrat ticket!

28 posted on 01/19/2015 4:56:45 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Theoria

Would scientists lie for a cause?


29 posted on 01/19/2015 5:18:50 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SunkenCiv

DNA is dangerous. In certain configurations it kills.


30 posted on 01/19/2015 5:20:53 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: babble-on

It’s like living in SA during Apartheid, only the repressors are called Democrats.


31 posted on 01/19/2015 5:21:34 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: X Fretensis

The more controversial sites of vastly older bones are now closed to excavation - these are south of the boarder - and dates were estimated in the 200-250,000 year range ...


32 posted on 01/19/2015 6:07:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Another excellent list. Thanks for Kennewick info.


33 posted on 01/19/2015 6:46:10 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: GilesB

On forms that ask for race, I choose “Native American”, if it is given as a choice, for the very reason you cited. In terms of blood lines, I am of Irish ancestry primarily.


34 posted on 01/19/2015 7:15:08 AM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: PIF

Would appreciate a reference to the 200-250,000 year old sites.


35 posted on 01/19/2015 8:21:12 AM PST by X Fretensis (IW)
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To: Theoria

Interesting how that tidbit of “information” was leaked. I won’t believe this until several unrelated studies have been done. The way this has been mishandled and the hyper-political-correctness that has affected scientific investigations related to this, the malfeasance, the destruction of a critical archeological site, and the involvement of political operatives in the Clinton Administration make me HIGHLY skeptical of any early conclusion that sides with the PC Left relating to Kennewick Man. Let’s wait and see.


36 posted on 01/19/2015 8:53:37 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: PIF
Found it, I think.

Calico: A 200,000-year Old Site In The Americas? ASA On Line ^ | unknown

Posted on ‎12‎/‎17‎/‎2001‎ ‎5‎:‎22‎:‎22‎ ‎PM by blam

Calico: A 200,000-year old site in the Americas?

New World archaeological sites inferred to be even slightly older than the 11.5 ka Clovis complexes have been controversial; so claims for a 200 ka site in North America have heretofore been treated with substantial disdain. But the acceptance of Monte Verde and Diring may soon change that.

The classic "ancient site" in the New World is "Calico," located in the Central Mojave Desert of California (Shlemon and Budinger, 1990). Two issues have dogged acceptance of Calico by mainstream archaeologists: (1) the authenticity of the artifacts; are they truly the product of human manufacture, or merely naturally produced "geofacts?" and (2) the obvious pre-Clovis age of the deposits (see, for example, lengthy discussions in Leakey and others, 1968; Haynes, 1973; Bryan, 1978; Taylor and Payen, 1975; Carter, 1980; Meighen, 1983; Patterson, 1983; and Budinger and Simpson, 1985).

Thought to be about 200 ka old, the deeply buried chert and chalcedony tools of Calico are usually dismissed as being artifacts. However, if shown to respected Old World archaeologists, many Calico assemblages are readily described as typical Paleolithic implements. Regardless, when told that the ancient tools come from the New World, these same archaeologists then often reject their original interpretation! So much for unbiased reasoning in science! Nevertheless, although it will take time, the pre-Clovis Monte Verde site in Chile and the 260 ka Diring site in Siberia may well provide a "stepping stone" for mainstream archaeological acceptance of the Calico site.

37 posted on 01/19/2015 9:19:28 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Theoria

Hopefully this will put a damper on the idea that Kennewick was a Euro, somehow I doubt that.


38 posted on 01/19/2015 4:23:36 PM PST by Varda
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To: X Fretensis; JimRed

No not Calico, not in US. It was another site, maybe, in Mexico. The woman who found the site was hounded and eventually banned, I think, from ever going there again. Site exploration is now forbidden by the authorities. I think there was a mini-documentary either on TV or YouTube about the entire sad affair.

There was a particular local well-connected professor who did much to discredit her and her finds. There were too many people in the US whose ox would be severely gored were she correct. She had to leave the country without the bones she found, but trustingly gave them to the same local professor, who promptly lost them. There were casts made so all was not lost.

That’s most of what I remember.


39 posted on 01/19/2015 5:39:46 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Another excellent list. Thanks for Kennewick info.


40 posted on 01/19/2015 9:59:49 PM PST by gleeaikin
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