Posted on 05/25/2014 12:03:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Excavations could reveal much about a little-explored archaic Greek settlement.
It was in July 1984 when rescue excavations conducted by Dr. Elena Korka, now Director of the Ephorate of Private Archaeological Collections and Antiquity Shops, turned up an ancient sarcophagus of the Greek early archaic period near the town of Chiliomodi in Greece. The sarcophagus contained a female skeleton along with offerings. The interior of the sarcophagus slab was adorned with a composition consisting of two lions of monumental character. It was a remarkable find.
But this was not altogether surprising, as archaeologists and historians believed that somewhere in the area the central structural remains of the city of Tenea likely existed. Established, according to written sources, not far from the ancient cities of Corinth and Mycenae shortly after the Trojan War, its first inhabitants were said to be Trojan prisoners of war settled there by Agamemnon. Tenea was considered to be the main settlement of the valley, situated strategically to control the way from Argos to ancient Corinth, and the historian Strabo wrote that Tenea was the location where the Corinthian king Polybius nursed Oedipus.
Historically, other hints of Tenea's real existence have emerged, such as the discovery of the Kouros statue in 1846, now housed in the Glyptothek Museum in Munich, and more recently two other archaic kouroi were found and seized by the police in 2010. Because of the importance of the finds, archaeologists conducted surveys in the area around the sarcophagus discovery and its surrounding region...
(Excerpt) Read more at popular-archaeology.com ...
I can see the sign now..
Oedipus nursed here
Next off ramp )
Archaeologists Excavate for Oedipus` Mama
there fixed it
Very interesting. Founding “after the Trojan War” suggests an age of about 1240 BC.
Nope, the Trojan War couldn’t have been before the 8th c.
She was definitely the marrying kind, probably they just need to find a reception hall with the dessicated centerpieces all ready to go.
Setting up a city populated by the spoils of war (slaves?)seems a little unlike any treatment of spoils of war (slaves?) I’ve ever heard of.
“Nope...”
Ben Lurkim’s right. The “Sea People” included the earliest (Agamemnon’s) Greeks, the Trojans, the Philistines. About 1200 BC.
The ‘Sea People’ were a few centuries later, and they were the classical Greeks; the Philistines were dying out during the early kingdom period in Israel, and the Hurrian and Greek influence predominated.
The Peloponnesian War was largely between Sparta and its “allies” on the one hand and Athens with its Delian League of “allies” on the other. After Sparta finally overcame Athens (and it’s easy to see that Athens’ demagogracy basically snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory), it was so used up that in its arrogance shot off its mouth a bit too much. Thebes, which was anti-Athenian and allied with Sparta had obviously prospered during the decades of the war, and Sparta’s rulers saw Thebes as the sole remaining serious threat.
The Thebans kicked the ever-loving snot out of them, then marched around freeing the hundreds of thousands of fellow Greeks the Spartans had enslaved over the previous generations, and helped them build walled towns and cities to keep the Spartans from ever being able to pull that crap again. Sparta turned into a flyspeck, of interest only to politicians like (e.g.) Hitler.
So, it’s not unheard of. :’)
Oops, and anyway, the Trojans carried off as war booty were put to work processing flax, which was a big industry, but the work was hard and unattractive to most. Better to have a work force without a choice.
The Classical Greek period of Homer and Plato was about 400 BC, 800 years after the Greece of Agamemnon that Homer wrote about.
Some historical events associated with the “sea people” at about 1200 BC: the invasion of Egypt by the sea people, the destruction of the Minoan civilization in Crete, and the sudden disappearance of the Hittite and Mittani empires Empires in Asia Minor and the Middle East.
Here’s the sum of what I have read about the sea people . They were active the eastern Mediterranean around 1200 BC or thereabouts. The early Greeks that Homer wrote about (many centuries later) were one of these sea people. The classical Greeks of Socrates, Plato etc lived at around 400 BC.
The Sea People were analogous to the Vikings with their hit an run raids. Some of them settled down and established countries, like the Vikings did in England and Normandy. But unlike the Vikings, the sea people were motley groups of various people with unrelated languages They they enriched themselves by attacking the eastern Mediterranean, because that’s where the money was. The Philistines who invaded the levant and mixed with the Canaanites were another sea people. Another group of sea people invaded Egypt in force.
This free for all in the Eastern Mediterranean may have begun with the sudden overthrow of the Minoan civilization on the island of Crete. Crete was the main commercial power in the Mediterranean (something like England was when they ruled the waves a couple hundred years ago). Somebody decyphered the writing of the invaders in the 1950’s and it turned out to be the early Greeks.
The Hittite Empire suddenly disappeared at about this time. The culprits were believed to be the Phrygians, another Indo-European people that invaded Asia minor. Homer’s Trojans were another “sea people”.
You’ve just described the conventional pseudochronology. It is very simply not factual.
I don’t know where you got this, or what makes the conventional chronology so pseudochronological, but, but here are the dates of some events attributed to the “sea people”.
Here’s what another site I just found says:
http://www.phoenician.org/sea_peoples.htm
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Hittite Empire overthrown by the Phrygians (a Sea People) 1180 BC
Levant (East coast of Mediterranean) invaded by the Phoenicians (also Sea Persons) 1180-1876 BC
Invasion of Egypt by the sea people: 1208 BC
The Minoan Civilization was destroyed a couple hundred years earlier by the early Greeks who were a sea poeple.
http://www.timemaps.com/civilization/Minoan-civilization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_civilization
I couple of books I read by Geoffrey Bibby years ago place them at this same time frame
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