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Why Our Universe is Not a Hologram
universetoday.com ^ | on December 13, 2013 | Brian Koberlein

Posted on 12/13/2013 1:24:43 PM PST by BenLurkin

There’s a web post from the Nature website going around entitled “Simulations back up theory that Universe is a hologram.” It’s an interesting concept, but suffice it to say, the universe is not a hologram, certainly not in the way people think of holograms. So what is this “holographic universe” thing?

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From this you get a headline implying that we live in a hologram. On twitter, Ethan Siegel proposed a more sensible headline: “Important idea of string theory shown not to be mathematically inconsistent in one particular way”.

(Excerpt) Read more at universetoday.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: stringtheory
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1 posted on 12/13/2013 1:24:43 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

A simulation ‘proving’ that the universe (which includes the simulation) is a simulation.

It’s obvious that anybody who really is convinced of that is no longer a scientist, but a weak-minded jerk.


2 posted on 12/13/2013 1:27:17 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: BenLurkin

“That idea is not as wild as it sounds. For example, suppose there is a road 10 miles long, and its is “contained” by a start line and a finish line. Suppose the speed limit on this road is 60 mph, and I want to determine if a car has been speeding. One way I could do this is to watch a car the whole length of the road, measuring its speed the whole time. But another way is to simply measure when a car crosses the start line and finish line. At a speed of 60 mph, a car travels a mile a minute, so if the time between start and finish is less than 10 minutes, I know the car was speeding.”

Sorry, pseudo-scientist. Both ways are equivalent. In way 1, the speed is measured over shorter distances than in way 2, but both are the same thing.


3 posted on 12/13/2013 1:31:28 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: BenLurkin

You can make a simulation that backs up pretty much anything.


4 posted on 12/13/2013 1:31:30 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

I’s all way over my head. But something tells me that when they work out the Grand Unified Theory — it will lead to some amazing technological developments.


5 posted on 12/13/2013 1:32:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Domandred

Yep. Look at the global warming simulations. Garbage in, garbage out.


6 posted on 12/13/2013 1:35:09 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: BenLurkin

Holograms are all in our minds.


7 posted on 12/13/2013 1:37:18 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: BenLurkin

Matter is mostly empty space. There is an element of illusion to the world as we know it, visually. We see what we’re equipped to see. There is more to it than that, though. I can see why some would equate this with a hologram.


8 posted on 12/13/2013 1:43:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: I want the USA back

“I wasn’t speeding, officer; I was travelling in a quantum way.”


9 posted on 12/13/2013 1:44:10 PM PST by steve8714 (Ted Drewes is proof there is a God...and He wants us to be happy.)
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To: BenLurkin
As I understand the theory in question, it has to do with the fact that any simulation has what is, in effect, a "minimum pixel size". We're close to that "minimal pixel size" in terms of understanding how quantum scales work, which enables us to further extrapolate possibilities.

It's not really a question of "we think this is a simulation". It's more a situation where "if this were not a simulation, we would expect to see disproofs at this point, but we're not".
10 posted on 12/13/2013 1:48:43 PM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: I want the USA back

Did you know nothing has color?


11 posted on 12/13/2013 1:49:53 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: BenLurkin

Whew. I was worried about that.


12 posted on 12/13/2013 1:51:56 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Your worry is just a part of the hologram.


13 posted on 12/13/2013 1:56:07 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: BenLurkin

My people laugh at you silly hologram creatures imagining you are real.


14 posted on 12/13/2013 1:58:12 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Ghost of SVR4

That’s racist.


15 posted on 12/13/2013 1:59:19 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: I want the USA back

That’s reminiscent of the ST:TNG ep- “Ship In A Bottle” ...


16 posted on 12/13/2013 2:00:35 PM PST by mikrofon (Simulations within Simulations within a simulated starship ;)
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To: I want the USA back
The universe is a FINITE and closed system. Kinda explains the laws of motion.

It will exist only as long as The Creator wants it to.

Don't Panic!

17 posted on 12/13/2013 2:01:24 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: steve8714
*“I wasn’t speeding, officer; I was travelling in a quantum way.”*

Cop: I'm giving you a ticket because you were going 90 miles an hour!

Steven Wright: But officer, I wasn't planning to be out that long

18 posted on 12/13/2013 2:07:55 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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Obviously the universe is not a hologram. The thing is it fits string theory, which probably means string theory is complete pap.


19 posted on 12/13/2013 2:09:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: I want the USA back

How come people who do not believe in God can think the universe is a hologram? Who made the hologram?


20 posted on 12/13/2013 2:10:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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