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Posted on 02/07/2013 4:00:51 PM PST by M.K. Borders
Considering an upgrade into. 308 Winchester for some long shooting. Mostly predator hunting but also some competition. Lots of folks pointing me to the Remington 700 but I'm not getting real excited about that particular gun. Don't like that particular nylon stock and the action seems loose. Leaning toward Savage but would like some opinions.
I like the Winchester model 100...but you may have some trouble finding one.
You may want to check out the Howa 1500. You can even get barreled actions to build your own rifle.
I’ve had a Remington 700 SPS chambered in .308 for the past two years and it is my favorite rifle. The local coyotes hate it, though.
Ummm... You are aware that the Remington 700 comes in about 40 different variants, with wood, composite and polymer stocks on offer, right?
Your idea about Savage is very good! They’re very precise out of the box with plenty of add ons after market. The trigger is extremely good. Unlike the Remington you can accurizable it yourself, no machinery needed. You can easily set headspace and rebbl if you like. There’s just a lot to like and the price is right.
I recently got a Savage Predator Max in .223, it was very affordable. I was amazed at the out of the box accuracy and the crispness of the trigger. Go with a Savage with the accustock and accutrigger and you will not be disappointed.
I have had several Remington 700’s and they seem to all have a 9 pound lawyer installed on the trigger. You can adjust it, but not as well as the Savage IMO.
What’s wrong with a US manufactured Ruger M77?
The 700 is near and dear to my heart as that’s what I used when I was in th Corps. But that Savage is a sweet deal for the price.
I like my Winchester Model 88.
Modern R700s have the new Xmarkpro trigger which is adjustable by the user down to about 3 pounds. Multiple reviewers have said it is as if it can with a trigger job from the factory.
This is because Savage first shipped their similar Accutrigger, of course, and Remington had to compete or lose out in sales.
Remington 700 is an excellent rifle model. I have one in .30-06 and one in 7mm Remington magnum. You can’t go wrong with a 700.
I have a Savage target rifle in .308 caliber. I love it. Without being a great shot I can nail a target at 400 yards without difficulty. (I have a good variable scope which cost a bundle.) I love Savages trigger. The downdside being the weight of the gun. The gun assumes one will use a bipod or other support.
I’ve recently heard of some accuracy issues with the 700 due to the bedding. I’m considering a 300 winmag myself. heard some good things about that one.
Thanks, I didn’t know that.
My Savage is around MOA with me shooting it (the spirit is willing but the eyes are weak) out to 300 yards. Put one of the Nikon M-223 drop compensating scopes on it. If you know the distance, it is right on the money.
Savage works very well in the long range department. 938 yard prairie dog kill with a 243 last year.
Again, depends on model. R700s are offered in many different configurations with different bedding.
Also, .300 WinMag is a caliber, not a specific firearm. :P And yes, the 700 is offered in that caliber as well.
That’s a bigazz sod poodle.
At home I have a Savage in 22-250; bull barrel, composite stock; scope set to 500yds. Killer.
Nice caliber. I got the .223 so I had a bolt gun that ate the same ammo as my AR.
Personally, I’d go with the Scar 17s heavy. Can’t go wrong with that. It’s the Ferrari of .308s.
You might want to consider an upgrade to a 30/06. It is a bit more versatile that the .308 regarding the number of loads you can buy or work up and packs a little more punch.
Plus the AMMO virtually universal in the US.
I love my Model 70 Winchester 30/06.
Check it out.
It is my opinion that for the money Savage makes the best out of the box bolt guns. I would say that .308 is a little overkill as far as coyotes go. But if you plan on also deer hunting with it is ok.
Most coyote hunters are now using AR-15’s in various calibers because many times you may have the chance to get a double and an AR is the ticket for a fast follow up shot.
My personal coyote gun is an AR-15 chambered in .204 Ruger. I like that caliber because it shoots flat enough that I don’t have to be concerned with hold over untill I am beyond 300 yds.
You should really consider a SAI M1A .308 Winchester! Best shooting gun you will ever own. Good for short range and anything out to 1000 yds! One of the best rifles ever made! One of the best looking rifles too!
The Savage is real neat. I go to eastern WA to shoot prairie dogs - nasty critters. I can sit off 5 to 6ooyds using a bench rest.
For your expected type of shooting, I think a model 700 in .260 Remington would be ideal.
The .308 is a good all around rifle but the .260 is an excellent long range or predator caliber and kicks less.
Of course .308 ammo is a lot more popular.
I have a 700. The action is loose and damn thing hurts my shoulder.
Accurate as hell, hurts after 25 rounds, action pisses me off.
Still, I can make about 25 rounds group under 1” using a Leupold MK IV.
I am getting the new 783 and I’ll switch the Luepold over to that and then send the 700 out for a new bolt that is way smoother.
The 783 has a dampening system that will help with my anticipation and flinching from the pain. It has a better Bolt that glides instead of stuttering as the 770 does.
When I get the 770 fixed I’ll put the Luepold back on it and fit the 783 with a Brown and Schmidt.
I know about P Dogs being from New Mexico and all.
The last one I dispatched (on my property) did a favor to their gene pool. It emerged from it’s burrow for some mini carrots and I got it with a .22 smoothbore from about 15 feet.
The Savage bolt action is a great gun and the 308 Win cartridge is good out to about 800 yards. I have heard that the 260 Rem (also based on the 308 casing) is the hot cartridge for the 1000 yard shooters.
The 770 is the gimped economy take on the 700. It’s not well finished and it is basically terrible to work the action on.
But it’s not a real 700.
I’ve also never heard of a 700’s bolt stuttering. My 700VTR doesn’t stutter, chatter or do anything like that. The bolt moves smoothly on it. Not quite like oil on glass, but not like dragging a stick through sand either.
The 24” varmint barreled Savage with Accu trigger and Accu stock. With an old Nikon Monarch 5.5-16.5x44 I can just about choose which eye I want to shoot out of a coyote. I get 3025 fps with 46gr of Varget under a 155gr Nosler Accubond bullet in the RP brass I don’t particularly like. Now if only them coyotes would stand still long enough for me to get my act together...I actually use the same rifle in .223 REM for coyotes and prairie daugs. So far just paper with the .308.
Get a bi pod you can shoot with in the sitting position.
And don’t just duplicate that load, work up your own. (Your mileage may vary)
That’s the next economy version of the 700. Better than the 770 by all reports but still gimped a bit. The bolt handle is plastic, for example.
A rifle well ahead of its time. I had one in .284 that I would dearly love back.
Information/education BUMP! Thanks to all posters.
I have a ‘new’ pre-64 Winchester 70 in ‘06 I bought in 1995. It has possibly the roughest bore I’ve ever seen straight from a factory. Got a decent scope on it.
In September of 2011 I shot a 3-shot, center to center group of 1.10” at 168 yards.
I didn’t think that was too bad for an old geezer (66 at the time) and whoever sees the target on the freezer door agrees.
The 110 Savage rocks.
Stay away from the Remington 700 because it has the same trigger problem from the day it was rolled out.
I have the 770 and it was supposedly and improvement over the 700. It ain’t but the fancy scope works great.
“What’s the predator you are going after...?”
Right! Two legged or four legged?
I just bought the thing because it was suppose to be an improvment. My decision had nothing to with price. Hell, four years ago I was on a spree with Springfield M1A’s, Kimbers, Benelli, etc.
I only cared about performance, reliability and dependability.
Didn’t really get a good deal on the 770. Next time I’ll hold the damn things and run through the items important to me before I plunk down some loot.
Maybe I’ll look into a 700 instead.
I like the Savage accu-trigger [reliable even down to 2 pounds, some say less, but I quit there; not all my work is off a bench or sandbag. Also, the extractor on the Savage can be changed out without armorer support, unlike the M700/M40X/M84.
For outranging other .308/ 7.62 NATO rifles, the US Army has gone to the .300 Winchester, while I make do with my old .300 Holland and Holland, on a Pattern 14 Enfield action and with a 26-inch barrel. In your case, since the synthetic stocks are acceptable to you, I might think that the .260 Remington cartridge deserves some of your careful study.
Beyond that: don't completely overlook the classics, the .30-06 and the 7,62x53r Russian. The former might well be found in a long-action Savage, the latter probably not. But the idea of a boltgun in one and a SVD in the other has a lot going for it.
Optics depends a lot on the enviornment and ranges at which you expect to use them. But I like the Elcan quite a bit.
By long shooting, what distance do you mean?
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