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Posted on 07/19/2004 9:40:41 AM PDT by null and void
We have those here too but without those pesky grass skirts.
Tonga, tonga, tonga.
Remember when it used to be Toga?
Tonga, tonga, tonga.
Remember when it used to be Toga, toga, toga? Welllll..not actually my memory, but I remember it..;)
LOL.. it really isn't my day. I think it's the sun. I'm not used to it.
The sun is still around. I'm going to go check it out in a minute or two.
First you have to love this country to worry about a Legacy!
The whole lot are Anarchist
SMILE
Take a good long walk for me. I'll watch you from my pillow. ;)
Got up waaaaaaay too early this morning, and the air conditioned bedroom sounds really nice.
I'll peek into the sewing room, wave to the curtains and say Buh-bye...
He has his legacy Resty, he just doesn't like it. ;)
Well, I consider the years of 1861 to 1865 to be pretty darn rowdy for our country.
LOL!
Were we talking about those years? Hmmm.. I must have missed it.
Well, you weren't, but I am. And I notice that politics are being discussed here, too. Lawd, what is next, religion? LOL
Excerpted from an article by Thomas J. DiLorenzo:
The death of the rights of secession and nullification was achieved in 1865, and the final nails were pounded into the Jeffersonian, states’ rights coffin in 1913, with the adoption of the income tax, the Federal Reserve, and the Seventeenth Amendment. The income tax declared, essentially, that all earned income is the property of the state, and the state will decide how much income working Americans may keep for themselves by determining the rates of taxation.
The Fed soon became an enormous and menacing tool of political control based in Washington, D.C., with the board of governors. The Seventeenth Amendment, which established the popular election of senators, relieved U.S. senators from the obligations they once had to vote only for legislation that was generally in the interest of the citizens of their states, since they were appointed by state legislatures. After 1913, they were "obligated’ mostly to whomever could give them the biggest campaign contributions.
If there is any lesson to be learned here, it is that constitutional liberty – in America or anywhere else – is an empty slogan unless the people possess the rights of secession and nullification. This is how the founders intended the people to be sovereign over their government. Until these powers are restored – and the Fed, the income tax, and the Seventeenth Amendment abolished – Americans have no hope of ever returning to a regime of constitutional liberty.
*L* ... Gotta love Freepers .. They are creative :0)
What had been merely a rumor has now become fact.
The Bush administration has asked for legislation enabling it to postpone the November election as a result of a terror attack. While worded very carefully to suggest that an attack must take place for such a move; I do not see either of the below stories unequivocally state that, if granted, these powers might not also permit elections to be “postponed” on merely a well-publicized threat. Don’t believe the press stories. Read the legislation when it is introduced to see what it says there. If that discretion is included then we are at the edge of an abyss more dangerous than anything we have ever faced.
These powers, if enacted, will go to the Department of Homeland Security. DHS would also be the entity to decide when, or if, postponed elections would be held.
Allowing suspension of the elections on just the threat of a terror attack would create a hole in the legislation big enough to drive an oil tanker, or an open dictatorship, through. Since the legislation has not been seen yet we do not know what it will say. Once introduced, the bill would then go into Senate and House Committees (Republican controlled) where the language could easily be modified to give discretionary power to the Administration. At that moment the Constitution would overtly cease to have any operational meaning at all. The separation of powers would vanish.
Judging from the news stories tonight we will probably see the legislation introduced fairly quickly. From the instant it appears, this legislation must be tracked daily, even hourly, at http://thomas.loc.gov.
Does any one of us doubt that if threatened or desperate, the administration would use those powers without hesitation?
I ask those who read this to stop for a moment and consider what it would mean for all of us on this side of the fence if the Bush administration both acquired and used the power to suspend the election -- with or without an attack. What restraints would be left to prevent some of our worst-case scenarios from coming true? Why even maintain the illusion of democracy? All vestiges of accountability will have been removed.
We should each evaluate our own situations accordingly. Hopefully most of us will see that we have no choice but to bond together more than ever before. To quote Ben Franklin: “We must all hang together or else we shall surely all hang separately.”
This is the moment at which it all becomes very, very real. Although there is strong Democratic Party opposition appearing with derisive statements from Rep. Jane Harman and Sen. Diane Feinstein, my initial assessment, after watching CNN, FOX and MS-NBC, is that the press is already “selling” us this legislation. Fortunately, early stories also report that the act would also require a constitutional amendment.
However, with this Supreme Court we can be assured of nothing. Yet, knowing this, we can be sure that there will be many chances to fight and beat this travesty. There will be many places at which our skills and resources can function to create and implement a coordinated response.
All the efforts put into 9/11 and into the anti-war movement will need to pale by comparison with the effort that must be put forth to prevent this legislation from passing. Every lesson learned about organizing; mobilizing; reporting; strategy; education; and influencing congress (if that’s possible), needs to be remembered and applied now. There will be many tests to come.
May whatever form of divinity each of us holds dear give us guidance, wisdom and strength as we consider this.
For almost three years FTW, along with many other brave souls, has been saying that 9/11 was just the beginning. Tonight it seems that the next stage – whatever that will turn out be – is knocking at everyone’s door. Do not give up. Do not be afraid. If all this is true and comes to pass, then everything is as bad as we have been saying all this time. So we had that much of a head start, didn’t we?
We are not defenseless. The cause is not lost. There is always a sense of relief when a dreaded event finally arrives because – only in that moment – can anything be done about it.
I don’t usually quote Dianne Feinstein but she was right when she said that America holds elections in the middle of wars, earthquakes and disasters. No matter what, we must demand an election this November. Even the debates about which candidate is or isn’t better, or whether one will or won’t make a difference, are now moot.
Stop. Catch your breaths. Steel your hearts and minds in preparation. Soon we’re all going to find out what we’re made of. If we do not have an election this November then the world we have been fighting to change until tonight will become only a “pleasant” memory compared to the world that will follow.
Mike Ruppert
Lord love a duck!
Did I ever tell you that my mother said that all her life, and I've said it all my life too? Even my kids say it now and then.. LOL
Never, if RATs ever regain the White House. You can bet that there's plenty there to find, though.
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You sound as though you don't believe him. 
Which is exactly why it is so absurd that he would offer such a lame excuse explanation. Something as comparatively minor as inadvertently violating the rules of confidentiality in my job could cost me my job....and possible criminal charges. I am expected to KNOW these things and not make any mistakes. Yet here is someone who has held one of the most sensitive security positions in the country, even the world, claiming it was an accident or a mistake and that even when he "realized" he did wrong (translation: knew he was busted) he "inadvertently" threw classified documents away (more likely they hit the shredder)....and we're supposed to believe it? Sorry...I'm not buying it. I don't think anybody with a brain is either. Of course, that would exclude most democRATs, at least the Clintonite types.
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