Posted on 08/20/2015 8:06:42 PM PDT by GraceG
I just thought of an effective way to end the anchor baby problem clear and simple.
Granted it sounds a bit "Draconian", but once you hear it, it does make sense.
First, imagine what happens when both parents break ANY OTHER law and get sent to jail. What happens to a child in this case?
1. The child gets taken away by CPS to a temp foster home.
2. If the parents are declared unfit the child can be ran though the foster system and given a fresh set of parents.
Well, why not apply this to Illegal Aliens who give birth to children in the USA?
The parents have broken the law (trespassing) and would need to face punishment and penalty ie.be "deported", but if the child was an American citizen "by birth" they cannot go with the parents so thusly the act the parents did by breaking the law has "de facto" made them UNFIT PARENTS. Because they as parents have effectively ABANDONED the child by the very nature of the PREMEDITATED CRIME of illegally entering another country without permission. This also works when someone here on a visa tries to take their "citizen baby" out of country too, they would also be guilty of premeditated child abandonment the second their visa expired.
So why not take away these so called anchor babies from their lawbreaking parents and find them new homes.....
OR...OR...OR...
As OUR law has it, the children ARE under their jurisdiction of their PARENTS and SO, if the parents want their children back when we boot them out of the country all the parents have to do is renounce their Children's citizenship to the United States given their authority as the child's parents.
I call this option the "Plea bargain Option of taking you kid and not coming the hell back"
I think we could all live with either option. And if we actually enforced this policy, all this anchor baby crap would end overnight.
Even then you can make the case to end the damned thing on the basis of preexisting laws intended to protect the children, because we should always do it "for the children".
How does this prevent people from coming here legally on a tourist, student, or temporary work visa and having a US citizen baby?
A great idea overall! But I do quibble with your second point. The parents are already criminals for invading the boundaries of the Republic. Therefore -- without exception -- each and every set of parents is, by all but a leftist view of the law, unfit.
I don't care one iota about "breaking up the families" since the parents are criminals from the get go. The children would do far better with new parents, preferably Christian (or Jewish) Conservatives. They'll raise 'em right! And they'll speak English!
No. Deport the parents. They can take their child and when the child is ready to come back to the U.S., they're welcome as a U.S. citizen. This happens hundreds of times everyday by wealthy parents who are unsure of their homeland stability and leave after the child's birth willingly. Quite often by Chinese in California. There is no reason to change anchor baby laws.
*sigh*
You’re overthinking this. All that is needful is for the Fourteenth Amendment to be applied according to the original intent of its framers. Which means that the children of illegal invaders are NOT granted automatic U.S. citizenship, because they are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” the United States of America. They are subject to the jurisdiction of the country from which their parents came.
Just keep the oath to support and defend the Constitution, as the oath of office requires.
Problem solved.
[ How does this prevent people from coming here legally on a tourist, student, or temporary work visa and having a US citizen baby? ]
Well when their visa expires or when they try to leave in order to avoid abandoning their citizen child they have to renounce the citizenship of their child in order to go home with their kid.
If they stay and their visa expires, they are breaking the law and either CPS pays them a visit or they renounce their child’s USA citizenship on their out of the country.
[ *sigh*
You’re overthinking this. All that is needful is for the Fourteenth Amendment to be applied according to the original intent of its framers. Which means that the children of illegal invaders are NOT granted automatic U.S. citizenship, because they are not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” the United States of America. They are subject to the jurisdiction of the country from which their parents came.
Just keep the oath to support and defend the Constitution, as the oath of office requires.
Problem solved. ]
I agree, my alternative is to cram the letter of their bloated laws down the leftists throats till they puke.
Ideally this crap will end by the government actually following existing law and not illegally non-enforcement like the situation is now.
Breaking the law does make you an unfit parent...you actually have to legally be deemed unfit where your child is in danger if you are the caretaker...
There isn’t court room in the land that would buy your idea as legal...
14th amendment . I am with Trump and Levin because alligators and a moat is too hard to maintain
. J K - about the alligators, anyway.
Why do you think we should believe illegals would not think leaving a child behind in America is a good thing.
We are told in literature and film that poorer mothers often give up their babies to others for a potentially better life. If we consider the natural impetus of procreation is to perpetuate genetic traits to the next generation, then the Illegal Alien has won the lottery of life by dumping their progeny here. The child is not ours to care for, so they must leave our country with their criminal parents.
I agree with you. It appears anything that is written especially as to the Constitution can be and is being construed for the benefit of peoples who do not want to honor the intentions of the Founding Fathers and the written wording of that Instrument. When persons, even so called honorable, know it all, are willing to take from one legal person one iota of government in any form to give to a non-legal person of any age the US will lose It’s identity as a beacon of fairness. For some this does not matter.
If Mom and Dad are going to the old calabozo for violating US Code Title 8, you can bet the court doesn’t need to hear from a court appointed special advocate, “Place this kid in foster care.”
Any court in the land would do it and then consider setting a hearing to determine whether their parental rights should be terminated.
The reality is that Uncle Sam won’t raise these kids. He just issues orders and then expects the states to do it. And we’ve got our hands full caring for the eggs of native cowbirds.
Depending on which source one reads, the cost of a non-complicated birth rungs up to as high as $37K. CNN pegged it at $18K.
My suggestion would be to bill Mexico for these births and if they didn’t pay, take it through other means. Cut their trade ties off until they get serious and stop this crap.
[ Depending on which source one reads, the cost of a non-complicated birth rungs up to as high as $37K. CNN pegged it at $18K.
My suggestion would be to bill Mexico for these births and if they didn’t pay, take it through other means. Cut their trade ties off until they get serious and stop this crap. ]
Every-time an illegal from Mexico gets a band aid from an American ER and doesn’t pay, we should send a bill for 1,000 bucks to the nearest Mexican consulate.
Half our damned hospitals should be paid for and have state of the art equipment and well trained staff courtesy of the mexican government....
But they don’t be cause we are chumps for the people wanting cheap labor and democrap votes.
I personally don’t believe the illegal alien parents are that altruistic about the child. They did a premeditated act by coming here soecifically for the child to be born here and be an instant citizen. They view the child as their meal ticket; their season pass for the gravy train. However we decide to handle the matter, it should have those facts in view.
That makes four of us.
I have an even simpler solution to the Anchor Baby problem.
Emergency Legislation.
Since it is not a baby until the mother takes "it" home...
It can't be a "person" either.
Stop all pregnant suspected illegals, and, if confirmed, deport within 24 hours. No exceptions.
Then, when they "argue" that the person-unborn child was conceived in the U.S.A., so the unviable mass of cells must be a citizen, hell, Planned Parenthood (!) will drive them to the border in limousines!
While I don’t believe the 14th amendment grants anchor babies citizenship, that is how it is interpreted right now, so we have to deal with that.
The key to stopping this practice is to deport the illegal parent/s. Nothing in the Constitution guarantees them the right to stay here. Immigration code may permit it, but codes can be changed without changing the Constitution. If they are here illegally, they have broken the law and do not deserve visas, green cards, or any other official permission to be in our country, and should never be allowed back in. They can figure out what to do with their baby themselves.
Love,
O2
A hospital in AZ was closed recently, and I think it was because it was over run by illegals. No comment was made on local news that I know of that this was the cause.
I know an American woman who failed to renew her work visa and had a child in a certain Eastern European country. She hadn’t married the baby daddy, either. The authorities came to the door 30 days after the visa expired, gave her 20 minutes to gather her belongings, and escorted her to the plane. She had to leave the baby behind, with baby daddy and grandparents. They were all citizens; she was illegal and was kicked out of the country, no exception made.
After returning to the US, she consulted several immigration attorneys.
The legal procedures to fight for custody of the child, apply for it to become an American citizen, and bring it to the US, were so expensive and time-consuming, the child would have grown to adulthood in the meantime.
Likewise, having violated that country’s laws once, she was barred from re-entry. She hasn’t seen the child since; she tried to stay in touch, hoping the father would bring the baby to reunite on American soil. But soon he lost interest and married another woman.
She’d assumed, to her everlasting grief, that other countries are as lax in enforcing their laws as is the US.
That’s the key. Parental rights have to be terminate. Otherwise in 18 years the child can apply for parental/family reunification and the chain continues.
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