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What History Says About Whether The United States Will Fall Like the Roman Empire
The Federalist ^ | 07/02/2022 | Kenneth Calvert

Posted on 07/02/2022 2:41:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Yes, the history of Rome often sounds like our own. But then, it sounds like most every other civilization that has existed in any part of the world at any time in history.

The bad news for Americans wondering if we are “like ancient Rome” is that all civilizations come to an end. This often happens on the heels of great success.

Nowhere was this truer than with the Roman Republic. The Roman general Scipio Aemilianus burst into tears as he and his troops finally and thoroughly destroyed the city of Carthage. We are told,

After being wrapped in thought for long, and realizing that all cities, nations, and authorities must, like men, meet their doom; that this happened to Troy, once a prosperous city, to the empires of Assyria, Media, and Persia, the greatest of their time, and to Macedonia . . . without any attempt at concealment Scipio named his own country . . . when he reflected on the fate of all things human.

Remarkably, Scipio seemed to be something of a prophet in 146 B.C., as the Roman Republic soon began to unravel. Rome had been rooted in local rule, agrarian pursuits, selfless citizenship, and republican virtues. Now they fought over land, wealth, luxuries, slaves, and the power that came with empire.

Over the following century, political assassinations, mob rule, and the rise of tyranny became the norm. At the end of it, the fate of the republic was left to emperors who, for all intents and purposes, were kings posing as traditional Romans.

At the end of the first century A.D., the historian Tacitus considered the death of the first emperor, Augustus. He wrote,

. . . the Republic had been revolutionized, and there was not a vestige left of the old sound morality. Stripped of equality, all looked up to the commands of a sovereign . . . as the end was near and new prospects opened, a few spoke in vain of the blessings of freedom, but most people dreaded and some longed for war. The popular gossip of the large majority fastened itself variously on their future masters.

The history that followed certainly had moments of genius. However, the ultimate sack of Rome in A.D. 410 arose from long centuries of internal struggles very much like those that destroyed the republic.

Added to greed, avarice, and incompetence was a mix of climate change, unstable borders, and an elite population soaked in corruption. All told, you have a basic understanding of what destroyed the Roman world.

Yes, the history of this civilization often sounds like our own. But then, it sounds like most every other civilization that has existed in any part of the world at any time in history. There is something consistent and familiar everywhere you travel in human history.

Believe it or not, this is where the good news is found. Yes, America is a republic, but it is not, by any means, Rome. This observation was made in correspondence between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in 1819. Jefferson wrote,

I ask myself What was that government which the virtues of Cicero were so zealous to restore, & the ambition of Caesar to subvert? . . . I do not say to restore it, because they never had it . . . if their people indeed had been, like ours, enlightened, peaceable, and really free, the answer would be obvious. ‘restore independance (sic) to all your foreign conquests, relieve Italy from the government of the rabble of Rome, consult it as a nation entitled to self-government, and do it’s will.

What is important here is that the American Founders were not naïve about the weaknesses of Rome. In particular, they despised the emperors and sought whatever good they could find in the old republic.

The American Founders admired the Roman virtues of citizenship and piety, and the Roman government balanced by the citizens, Senate, and magistrates. However, there was no idea of “rights” among the Roman citizens. Only power.

The Romans would never have created a “Declaration of Independence” in which these beautiful, high-minded words would be announced: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

This sort of thinking could only have emerged after the prohibition of the gladiatorial bloodlettings of the Roman world, or the imperialistic greed of the emperors. It could never have been written by a society that believed the enslavement of human beings to be the norm. While some signers of the Declaration, like all humans, struggled with hypocrisy, their ideals have made America great in a way that Rome could have never imagined.

America, like all republics, has freedoms that allow citizens the right to go insane. No free nation will be free of human nature. The current internal and external threats to America do not have to bring, out of necessity, its destruction.

The good news is that America has stronger foundations than Rome ever knew, and those foundations not only seem to be holding, many Americans are rediscovering those foundations in the midst of a modern contest for the soul of the nation.


Dr. Kenneth Calvert is a professor of ancient history at Hillsdale College. His lectures on Rome can be found in the Hillsdale online course: "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Republic," free at online.hillsdale.edu. The course was introduced on the Ides of March, 2022.


TOPICS: Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: bloggerkaren; bloggertrash; climatechange; decline; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; hillsdalecollege; kennethcalvert; michigan; ntsa; romanempire; rome; usa
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1 posted on 07/02/2022 2:41:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Will” fall?!

Wrong tense...


2 posted on 07/02/2022 2:42:46 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

Can’t disagree

Unfortunately


3 posted on 07/02/2022 2:46:56 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's a good essay, but I'm very surprised he put climate change in the list of root causes of the loss of the Roman Republic:
Added to greed, avarice, and incompetence was a mix of climate change, unstable borders, and an elite population soaked in corruption.
I wonder if he is overly optimistic in his conclusion...
America has stronger foundations than Rome ever knew, and those foundations not only seem to be holding, many Americans are rediscovering those foundations in the midst of a modern contest for the soul of the nation.
Americans are indeed pushing back against the project to destroy the USA and are rediscovering the foundations of America, but we are in the late stages of a fight to the death. Is it possible to save the nation at this late date? It's a race against time -- the evil leftist destruction vs. the awakening of Americans to the existential threats. Can patriotic Americans do something fast enough and substantive enough to stop the leftist project?
4 posted on 07/02/2022 2:53:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: SaveFerris

The author is full of encouragement, but there are still voting machines all over the country connected to the internet. I will be encouraged only if I wake up the morning after the Midterms and there really was a Red Wave according to officially counted votes.

I think the ‘Rats can cheat enough to turn the Red Wave into a Red Ripple.

Then, of course, Ripple gets a bad name today. In its own day, which I well remember, it was not so bad. ;-)


5 posted on 07/02/2022 2:54:38 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“What is important here is that the American Founders were not naïve about the weaknesses of Rome.”

People have such little faith in the constitution

At least Justice Thomas has sense


6 posted on 07/02/2022 2:54:51 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

Its in the process.


7 posted on 07/02/2022 2:57:11 PM PDT by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: SeekAndFind

I absolutely promise I can fix it, but, it won’t be a republic anymore for a while, at least. A lot of folks would love the results.


8 posted on 07/02/2022 2:58:00 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

I cannot believe the stuff I’m reading these days.

Including about the world 🌎🌍.

Seems to indicate to me the 7-year Tribulation cannot be that far off.

If not, then I’m worried how much lower the world can sink.


9 posted on 07/02/2022 2:58:40 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: Regulator

wait til Texas secedes, then let’s go back to this article..


10 posted on 07/02/2022 2:58:59 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No nation could survive what the United States is now undergoing 24/7 for very long.


11 posted on 07/02/2022 2:59:24 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: SeekAndFind; LS

Ask LS about history...He’s the expert.....


12 posted on 07/02/2022 3:02:15 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: SeekAndFind
My father's brother, a brilliant and highly successful man, told me, shortly before he died back in the 1970s, that the USA would likely go the way of the Roman Empire some day.

I believed that, because it made sense historically and because of his towering intellect, but I couldn't imagine how it could possibly come about, and I thought it would happen only in the far distant future.

Now I see it unfolding before my eyes.

Wokism is as depraved as anything the Romans concocted in their decadent period.

The January 6 Committee is also.

Corruption in the Federal Government is ubiquitous and alarming.

US politicians are willing to sell America to the highest bidder.

Hollywood movies, TV programs, and popular culture spew filth everywhere.

US cities are hellholes of violence, drug abuse, and crime. Their sidewalks and parks are littered with human excrement, drug paraphernalia, and loiters.

American culture has sunk to the level of the Roman decadent period.

American schools teach students to hate their country. They also teach explicit sex.

And the worst thing of all is that millions of Americans DON'T CARE--either that, or they are TOO STUPID to understand what's happening.

13 posted on 07/02/2022 3:03:33 PM PDT by Savage Beast (You are not walking this path alone--all who walked before you are lifting you. --Michael Singer)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unfortunately this is an accurate assessment of where America is at right now. The best thing that could happen at this point would be splitting America into Red America and Blue America (doubtless someone will come up with more creative names) and letting each take its course.


14 posted on 07/02/2022 3:04:52 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: max americana

Oh don’t worry, when Texas secedes the noble states of The Rust Belt will form up an army of UAW “workers”, Detroit welfare dependents, Philadelphia clip artists and DC bureaucrats to march South and enforce Lincoln’s claim.

Should work out real good for them.


15 posted on 07/02/2022 3:05:26 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SeekAndFind

America, like Rome, was founded as a republic.

Rome didn’t become Imperial until Octavius defeated his rivals to his adopted father Julius seat and then became Augustus Ceasar.

They did 600+ years as a Republic, and 500 years as an Empire.


16 posted on 07/02/2022 3:05:47 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps it’s our Heavenly Father’s reaction when free will turns to immorality and decadence.


17 posted on 07/02/2022 3:07:26 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: SeekAndFind

History of Rome podcasts by Mike Duncan.

Yep, the USA is on a downhill slide, IMHO.


18 posted on 07/02/2022 3:09:57 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hi.

The U.S. doesn’t get a mention in the book of Revelations.

Just sayin

5.56mm


19 posted on 07/02/2022 3:11:52 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we have an all-powerful central government then all of us fall. If we have power shared between it and the states, basically there are 51 entities and all of them aren’t going to fall.


20 posted on 07/02/2022 3:12:05 PM PDT by cymbeline
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