Posted on 12/09/2018 1:52:52 PM PST by A Cyrenian
The market seems to be in turmoil in the last 3 months. NO one knows how to accurately predict it. It falls for the simplest reasons and struggles to gain for any consistent periods.
As far as I'm concerned for no reason. Most economic news is good, so I think the market should reflect that.
But it doesn't. Why?
Because of this behavior, there is no way in the world Social Security benefits should be tied to it.
What do you think?
which is why the little guy needs to be invested in big time 4 and 5 star funds with long term 4 5 star results.
Just buy the index’s everything else is BS.
No. Can’t agree.
You see, all of Social Security is, besides being an unconstitutional program, unsecured debt. Nothing but making other citizens entirely bear the burden.
Every penny of extra money was always turned over to Congress and promptly spent. It was a feature from FDR onward. They used double books, an accounting trick that’s illegal if it’s not the government doing it, to pretend that there was a reserve. There never was.
So what about the stock market? Well, it’s never been zero, not once. But even if it completely evaporated a “zero” is still better than an unsecured debt.
To recap, the absolute worst the stock market could ever do is better than the best that could ever be expected from the system created by FDR and company.
But if the purpose for Social Security was really more money for Congress to spend and they just used it as a pretext for the additional taxes then the program has so far delivered on that.
Now, if you want a reason why the federal government shouldn’t be investing in the stock market you need only consider the long term effects of the vast piles of swag in the hands of insurance companies all seeking the best short term return ... something that can also be traced back to FDR. I’ll just throw a few things to consider: moving production out of the country (or: it’s sometimes more profitable to go out of business at home); helping to enrich a whole class of people who do nothing productive but live off of the churn (and their lawyers); the too common progressivism of said folks.
Aside from the whole it’s not a crime when Congress does insider trading thing, letting the federal be the major investor in the stock market would be that on steroids. At least the insurance companies can’t spend money into existence.
The real solution is to obey the Constitution and people to finally admit that just because they were defrauded of their earnings to provide illegitimate benefits to others that doesn’t mean it’s right for them to expect that others should be similarly defrauded in turn for their benefit.
End these unlawful federal programs. Nullify the associated intergovernmental “debt”. Screw everyone, everywhere equally. Save the country.
its all I do other than VWINX ,need some active mgmnt & this track record serves me well
In the long run, the stock market has a proven track record of performance and volatility over long periods is almost nonexistent . Retirement benefits are accrued over 40 years and disbursed over 20 years. Small ups and downs are irrelevant to returns over a 60 year period.
“Retirement benefits are accrued over 40 years and disbursed over 20 years.”
20 years?
I am going into the 25th year as are many of my neighbors.
(sigh)
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Of course it is being manipulated. That’s what those with billions of dollars in the stock market tend to do. Drive down the price, so they can buy stocks on the cheap.
President Trump has delivered the goods and the economy is booming and set for long term growth
Unfortunately, the Democrats took control of the House and the Republicans are moving to force through legislation to lock in the the economic reforms during the lame duck session like the Democrats did to ram ObamaCare in the dead of night without even knowing what was in it when they lost the House.
Republicans really need to spend some time in the political wilderness to get their priorities straight and their heads screwed down
I feel these so called financial experts hosted on TV are nothing more than puppets whose sole purpose is to influence the public sector trading by people like me who have no know knowledge of the market other than my since terminated contributions to my 401-K.
My primary example being New York Times financial expert extraordinaire Paul Krugman who after the jump in the stock market after Trump won the presidency predicted that it was short term and would ultimately crash and likely never recover.........
What do you want to bet that this charlatan made a fortune buying up all the stocks that sold short by the fools that listened to him?
Yes. I think it is a dump by big players trying to scare a huge number of little people out so the big players can buy cheap. Expect lots of bad news from the LSM and then some huge “unexpected” gains.
“The stock market is too large, and there are too many buyers and sellers, for it to be manipulated.”
Nothing is too big to be manipulated. Computers do most of the work. They’re not doing this with paper and pencil.
How much will the Congress (stinking lying RINOS
and the treasonous DNC)make from this crash
through their own info pathways that would make
others GO TO JAIL.
Man UP already.
Republicans just spent eight years in the political wilderness.
How much time to they need?
How much time can the Nation afford?
So, yes, it’s manipulated, both in your favor and against you. For the last few years, it’s worked for you. If it was free to play out, you would be looking at a Dow around 15-18k, not 24-25k. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The reason it’s loosing value now is because they have manipulated it SO much that it’s over inflated. Don’t complain. It can fall 8k points and that would probably be where it should be.
Yes. There has been no price discovery by natural means for a long, long time now.
S&P has a triple bottom line. Bad news if it breaks thru it to the downside next week.
NO: it is being run by the "AI" program trading BOTS YES: it is volatile, because Democrats & Media are placing There will be no recession until 2022, yes & no
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Key Words ( read by the AI Bots ) into the the news stream
to cause it to change direction.
as they occur every 7 years.
The market is always being manipulated. Now it can be done more often and more efficiently by AI.
I pay my financial advisor a hefty sum to lie awake and worry about such things.
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