Is the stock market being maniplated?

[A Cyrenian]

The market seems to be in turmoil in the last 3 months. NO one knows how to accurately predict it. It falls for the simplest reasons and struggles to gain for any consistent periods.

As far as I'm concerned for no reason. Most economic news is good, so I think the market should reflect that.

But it doesn't. Why?

Because of this behavior, there is no way in the world Social Security benefits should be tied to it.

What do you think?

[DarthVader]

Yes

[rb22982]

Stock market is down as portfolio managers and hedge funds are worried we are within 1 year or so of a downturn - we’re certainly due for one - already would have been in one under HRC.

[ifinnegan]

First time I ever heard of George Soros was decades ago during the Asian Financial Crisis when he was said to have caused it by manipulating the markets.

[Track9]

By every nefarious means possible.

[FlingWingFlyer]

According to the “experts” in the psychomedia, stocks continue to “plunge” for every reason you can think of but one. The commies and Marxist cocktail waitresses take over the House of Representatives. They threaten to end capitalism, impeach the president and take away the rights of every American and it has absolutely NO EFFECT on the stock market. Sorry but somebody B booschittin’.

[avital2]

the markets reflected nervousness about the direction of the economy before the mid-terms, and now are adjusting to an expected slower growth pattern going forward. many were invested in hypergrowth companies, necessitating some switching to more moderate growth situations. also there was concern that the Fed was being too agressive in its interest rate hikes, especially if future growth, while good, would not be as fast as we have experienced. this is normal shifting of gears - and understandable. things are somewhat aggravated by the fact that major investment banks and brokers can’t go in and do major buying in declines as they could pre-Dodd Frank. this is an artificial destabilizer.

[CatOwner]

Always. Never to the benefit of the small investor.

[SkyPilot]

Of course it is.

The Central Banks print money out of thin air, and then charge interest to borrow the money they 'printed.' The Stock Market is the world's biggest casino, that can be manipulated at will.

The proverbial Powers That Be will crash everything, when it is in their interest to do so. A new "Global Currency" and all that goes with it will emerge when everyone around the globe is panicked, desperate, and frightened.

Commodities, currency, and all other assets are also manipulated (including gold and silver).

It's just they way things are.

[foreverfree]

How *do* big time players manipulate the market beyond phone calls, texting, etc.?

ff

[irishjuggler]

Because of this behavior, there is no way in the world Social Security benefits should be tied to it.

Don't fall for the propaganda. I remember Newt Gingrich 25 years ago talking about allowing workers to set aside a portion of what they were paying into SS in an investment account similar to an IRA. I remember him basically saying, "Look, the long-term performance of the stock market is 7% on average. The money will do better there than with the government." Of course, the liberals and the media and the Clinton administration cried foul and Newt's proposal went nowhere. Twenty five years ago, the S&P 500 was at 472. It closed Friday at 2,633. That's 7.1% annual return, not even including dividends which add another 2-3% in annualized total return. The market has overperformed Newt's so-called "crazy" plan.

[proxy_user]

The stock market is too large, and there are too many buyers and sellers, for it to be manipulated. The volumes are massive.

The daily dollar volume on the NYSE is nearly $1 trillion, and the NASDAQ averages $150 billion.

[con-surf-ative]

The market has been floating on a sea of Fed funny money for a decade. They are starting to take away the punch bowl, so the market will be ugly for a while.

[sodpoodle]

Stocks were soaring up- so people sold and made a profit.

Stocks then went down and the folks who sold high are now buying low again.

That’s how it works. Much like climate change;)

[alternatives?]

“Commodities, currency, and all other assets are also manipulated (including gold and silver).
It’s just they way things are.”

Most people don’t realize nothing is really safe. For example, your home could be worth $0. All they have to do is raise your real-estate taxes enough. Look at Detroit.

[MAGAthon]

this may be about naked short-selling in 2015, but there’s no reason to believe George & his connections aren’t still up to their same old tricks today:

6 Dec: Bloomberg: Soros Family Office Fined by Hong Kong Watchdog for Naked Short Selling
By Bei Hu
The company’s Hong Kong unit was reprimanded and fined HK$1.5 million ($192,000) for a 2015 trade involving a bonus share issue of Great Wall Motor Co., the city’s Securities and Futures Commission said in a statement on Thursday...

Soros is no longer actively involved in the firm’s operations. Most of the firm’s assets under management now belong to his Open Society Foundations, after he transferred the bulk of his wealth there.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-06/soros-family-office-fined-by-h-k-watchdog-for-naked-short-sales

[jjotto]

The market is always being manipulated. It’s what a whole class of traders does.

There was going to be an adjustment from when zero interest rates forced conservative money into the market. Rising interest rates subtract money from the market. It takes real economic growth to bring back stock prices. Uncertainty, like Dems in charge of the House, sends the market down as conservative money goes to the sidelines in anticipation of more Dem interference with business.

[Bell Bouy II]

Yes, by computer based set point transactions(brief and minute Y Curve inversion for the latest) which create a vicious cycle of sell offs.

[zeestephen]

Ping.

[Hojczyk]

Traders love rumors they can make money both ways...sell short There is also tax selling ... The only way to rally make money for an average person is buy stocks you use and never sell them in dips.... think years.. Think the next Apple or Netflix Your looking for stocks that go up 1000% I went to a stock broker seminar in 1965...the guy said if you do nothing buy a few shares of Berkshire Hathaway. Problem was I had no money.. Back when Buffett became a majority shareholder in 1964, the stock was only $19. Imagine if you had invested in Buffett back then. But if you had invested in 1964, your $1,000 would be $10.5 million.