Posted on 11/20/2017 9:11:04 AM PST by BenLurkin
A US Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft, also known as a submarine hunter, is now assisting in the search area. The official said that the waters of the Atlantic Ocean where the sounds originated are extremely deep. The official stressed that search efforts thus far have yet to locate the submarine.
The Argentinian military has been working with a US company that specializes in satellite communication to determine the location of the submarine.
The ARA San Juan submarine and its 44 crew members were traveling from a base in southern Argentina's Tierra del Fuego archipelago to their home port in Mar del Plata. The sub was scheduled to arrive Sunday.
It was last spotted Wednesday in the San Jorge Gulf, a few hundred kilometers off the coast of southern Argentina's Patagonia region and nearly midway between the two bases.
Southern Argentina's Patagonia coast is notorious for strong storms.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
Argentina navy: Missing sub ‘had called to report breakdown’
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42055676
“Argentina’s navy says its ARA San Juan submarine, which has been missing since Wednesday, reported a mechanical breakdown in its last communication.
“The submarine, with 44 crew on board, disappeared 430km (270 miles) off the Argentine coast and no trace of it has been found.
“The vessel surfaced and it reported a breakdown,” naval commander Gabriel Galeazzi said.
Capt Galeazzi spoke of a “short circuit” in the sub’s batteries.
“This is the first time that an official has mentioned the sub encountering mechanical problems.”
“The brother of a crew member had earlier told local media that in a message before communications were lost his sibling had mentioned that the vessel was having problems with its batteries.”
Prayers, but it don’t look good........................
I wonder if this is one of our old fleet type subs.
German, I think.
No, I understand it is a re-conditioned European-style diesel sub. Not “new”, but fairly recent design.
It’s a diesel electric boat built in Germany in the 1980s.
Perhaps the Brits had some unauthorized battle drills? That’s one less sub they need to worry about in the event of more problems in the Falklands. Sub crews take time to train as well.
On the surface and they couldn't just run on diesels? Further, no communications? They would to have suffered a total electrical failure wouldn't they, disabling all comms. It just doesn't make sense.
The TR-1700 (Santa Cruz) is a class of diesel-electric patrol submarines built by Thyssen Nordseewerke for the Argentine Navy in the 1980s. These ships are amongst the largest submarines built in Germany since World War II and are among the fastest diesel-electric submarines in the world.[1]
ARA San Juan was completed on June 28th, 1983 and commissioned for service on November 19th, 1985. As-built, the boat displaces 2,140 tonnes when surfaced and 2,336 tonnes when submerged. Its length is 216.3 feet with a beam of 27.4 feet and a draught of 24.1 feet. Drive power is from a diesel-electric arrangement centered on four German MTU marine diesels and a single Siemens electric motor driving a single shaft astern. The boat can make headway at 15 knots when surfaced and up to 25 knots when submerged. The diesel-electric arrangement allows for the diesel units to propel the boat when it is surfaced while the electric motor supplies the needed power when the boat is submerged. Range is out to 12,000 nautical miles. The vessel can stay away from port for up to 30 days.”
Above from the web.
https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=ara-san-juan-s42-attack-submarine-argentina
But compare the range, capability, and weapons to the WWII fleet boats, and the WWII British, Japanese, and German limited range, visual fire control, poor performance submarines. And those fought worldwide, even torpedoing ships in the Gulf of Mexico off of Texas and Louisiana!
Can they survive much longer ?
How long before rescue attempt(s) ?
German TR-1700 diesel electric. No comparison with WW2 fleet boats. Fast and quiet. Entered service in 1985.
What’s crush depth for this sub? How deep could they be and still be rescued by I’m guessing only the US Navy?
I may be wrong, CNN, but don't submarines travel UNDER the water?
On one network newscast last night, the reporterette read the sub’s name as “Ara San Juan”—as if “ARA” was its name. The press, what don’t they know.
It’s a German sub.
The Germans quit providing maintenance and support due to non-payment.
Argentina kept putting them to sea after doing their own domestic maintenance.
Death Trap.
The Germans walked away from the maintenance contract on those subs due to non-payment.
The Argentines kept them operational by cannibalizing 4 other partially completed subs.
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