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1 posted on 11/20/2017 9:11:04 AM PST by BenLurkin
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Argentina navy: Missing sub ‘had called to report breakdown’

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42055676

“Argentina’s navy says its ARA San Juan submarine, which has been missing since Wednesday, reported a mechanical breakdown in its last communication.

“The submarine, with 44 crew on board, disappeared 430km (270 miles) off the Argentine coast and no trace of it has been found.

“The vessel surfaced and it reported a breakdown,” naval commander Gabriel Galeazzi said.
Capt Galeazzi spoke of a “short circuit” in the sub’s batteries.

“This is the first time that an official has mentioned the sub encountering mechanical problems.”

“The brother of a crew member had earlier told local media that in a message before communications were lost his sibling had mentioned that the vessel was having problems with its batteries.”


2 posted on 11/20/2017 9:14:02 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Prayers, but it don’t look good........................


3 posted on 11/20/2017 9:15:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: BenLurkin

Perhaps the Brits had some unauthorized battle drills? That’s one less sub they need to worry about in the event of more problems in the Falklands. Sub crews take time to train as well.


8 posted on 11/20/2017 9:19:57 AM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: BenLurkin
Fast, strong, German engineered, well respected Type TR-1700 export sub
9 posted on 11/20/2017 9:20:33 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: BenLurkin

What’s crush depth for this sub? How deep could they be and still be rescued by I’m guessing only the US Navy?


16 posted on 11/20/2017 9:25:50 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: BenLurkin
Southern Argentina's Patagonia coast is notorious for strong storms.

I may be wrong, CNN, but don't submarines travel UNDER the water?

17 posted on 11/20/2017 9:30:17 AM PST by PGR88
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To: BenLurkin

On one network newscast last night, the reporterette read the sub’s name as “Ara San Juan”—as if “ARA” was its name. The press, what don’t they know.


18 posted on 11/20/2017 9:31:08 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: BenLurkin

Pretty decent of us to help out a country that has called for our destruction..... Not that anyone would notice or those that do, would think of us as a chump.


21 posted on 11/20/2017 9:34:14 AM PST by ASOC (Forced to give a man a fish, he eats one day. Deport him and you'll never have to feed him again.)
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I thought I had read that there were twenty foot seas when they lost contact. It would be difficult to run on the surface for a sub in those conditions, I would think. If there were battery problems they could not run submerged and would have to stay on the surface in the storm.


25 posted on 11/20/2017 9:40:55 AM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: BenLurkin

The US Navy P-8A may be the best hope for finding the sub. It may be too late, sorry to say.


28 posted on 11/20/2017 9:45:34 AM PST by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my airline pilot son!)
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To: BenLurkin
Reminds me of this eerie episode of the Twilight Zone...

Image result for The Thirty Fathom Grave

“In 1963, a U.S. Navy destroyer is on a routine patrol off Guadalcanal when sonar picks up a sound beneath the waves; the crew say that it sounds like something banging on metal.

They discover a submarine on the ocean floor, but inquiries to naval command reveal no recent sinkings in the area. A joking suggestion from some of the crew that the sub may be haunted sends an anxious and bewildered Chief Bell, who has been feeling unwell for a couple of days, into a frenzy of bizarre behavior, including fainting spells. The commander, Captain Beecham, orders the ship’s diver, McClure, to investigate. They find out that it is an American submarine, and the metal sound is coming from inside.

When McClure bangs on the submarine hull, the metal banging restarts in seeming response. Chief Bell begins to see apparitions of dead sailors beckoning him. The ship’s doctor unsuccessfully tries to convince Bell that he is just having nightmares, and reports to the captain that Bell is experiencing effects of psychological trauma usually caused by wartime experiences. He finds a pile of seaweed in the spot where Bell saw the apparitions.

McClure later discovers the number of the submarine, “714”, which Beecham identifies as belonging to a submarine that was sunk during the Battle of the Eastern Solomons, almost 21 years previously. Although stunned at the idea that someone inside the submarine could still be alive, Beecham asks naval command for a submarine rescue operation. Upon returning to the ship, the diver gives Beecham a dog tag he recovered from the ship, which belonged to Chief Bell.

When Beecham shows the dog tag to Bell, he recollects that he was indeed on that same submarine 21 years before during the battle, when it was surrounded by enemy Japanese ships. Bell was a signalman, and dropped a signal light while attempting to change the infrared filter during the night, causing the filter to fall off. As a result, Japanese ships were able to see the submarine and attack it. Bell fell off the submarine amidst the shelling. The captain took the submarine underwater, but it sank due to the Japanese attack.

Bell was later rescued by an American destroyer that came into the area. Bell tells Beecham that he now understands that the dead submarine crew know he is above them right now and are demanding that he join them in death. Bell is overcome by survivor guilt. Despite Beecham’s efforts to explain to Bell that he was not guilty of cowardice or responsible for the sinking of a submarine already surrounded by enemy ships, Bell races to the deck and jumps overboard. The ship’s crew are unable to save Bell or recover his body.

Later, McClure accompanies the rescue mission into the drowned submarine. Upon returning to the ship, he reports to Beecham that he had found the periscope shears cut in half, with one swinging back and forth. When Beecham asks him to confirm that this was the clanging noise they had heard, McClure agrees, but adds that he had also seen the remains of eight dead sailors, one of whom was holding a hammer in his hand.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirty-Fathom_Grave#Plot

35 posted on 11/20/2017 10:00:08 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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It is a sad ongoing story. I’ve been watching the news from our Navy and the US Southern Command on Twitter. Our Navy and Airforce are performing air searches, we have a mini sub and a deep sea rescue vehicle their already, one can rescue to 850 ft. And one to 2000ft..

@USNavy #BREAKING: #USNavy deploys unmanned submersibles in Argentine submarine search - navy.mil/submit/display…

@USNavy #BREAKING: Submarine rescue chamber and other assets being mobilized at @MCASMiramarCA to support search for Argentinean Navy submarine A.R.A. San Juan -

@southcomwatch BREAKING: @USNavy deploys unmanned underwater vehicles (UUV) to Argentina to join in the search for the Argentine navy submarine A.R.A. San Juan. Deployment includes one Bluefin 12D (Deep) UUV and three Iver 580 UUVs. southcom.mil/News/PressRele…

@EmbajadaEEUUarg Un C-17 de @usairforce llegó esta mañana a Comodoro Rivadavia con equipos para la operación de búsqueda y rescate del #submarino #ARASanJuan


42 posted on 11/20/2017 10:32:27 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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Now it’s looking like the noises didn’t come from the submarine.

Mystery sound ‘did not come from missing sub’
https://news.sky.com/story/mystery-noise-could-be-missing-submarine-11136421


56 posted on 11/20/2017 4:19:32 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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