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March 1856
2004, 1978 | Nicole Etcheson, Don E. Fehrenbacher

Posted on 03/01/2016 5:06:06 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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To: BroJoeK; rustbucket; EternalVigilance

At Gettysburg on the third day during the artillery barrage there was massive, over shooting and the Canon’s were position way off Porter, Alexander had the worst of luck that day.


41 posted on 03/02/2016 12:38:19 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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To: EternalVigilance

Fort Scott, Osawatomie, Mapleton, Fort Scott and Fulton were all south of Lawrence and the hot-bed of action against an aggressive anti-Free State settler movement. John Brown added a violent action force from the Free State side that started Bleeding Kansas in 1856. Two raids on Osawatomie, Two or more on Lawrence, the Pottowatomie Creek killings all were in that era of 1856-57.

My great-great grandfather was from Mapleton and was involved with it all but was not on the Pottowatomie raid. He was made postmaster by Lincoln during the war.


42 posted on 03/02/2016 12:52:46 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke

The oral and written records of my Chandler family forebears say that John Brown stopped over at the family farm at Fort Scott many times.

Four family members died within a year there, and three of them were relatively young, in their forties I believe. Wish I knew what happened to them.

The remaining family scattered to the four winds - some to Nebraska, some to Oregon, and several ended up back in Lake County, Illinois. My great-great grandfather joined the Union Army at sixteen there, and fought all the way through the war through the big closing battles of Franklin and Nashville.

He took a slug in the gut on the drive to Atlanta, and surprisingly, survived. But he suffered from stomach problems the rest of his life.

He and his family were among the first pioneers of Sac County, Iowa.


43 posted on 03/02/2016 5:59:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Gettysburg Republican Compiler

Interesting discussion on exactly who is aggressing whom, North v South.
Remember, this is before the Supreme Court's notorious Dred Scott decision:


44 posted on 03/03/2016 10:58:47 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

Is this the Gettysburg Republican Compiler reprinting an article from another periodical, the Washington Union? I would guess that is a southern publication.


45 posted on 03/03/2016 12:33:02 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: EternalVigilance

My Great-great-grandfather got off the boat from Stettin, Prussia in 1848, and settled in as a tailor in Watertown, Wisconsin. He and his wife had five children before the Civil War.

He enlisted in the 5th Wisconsin Infantry as a three year man, and saw some of the bloodiest battles of the war. He did not re-up after the Wilderness and went back home to have four more children.

Several years ago, while at a seminar for prosecuting attorneys, I met a guy from North Carolina who was a fellow Civil War buff. He told me the regiment his great-great grandfather fought in, and we did some research. We believe in one or two battles, there is a fair chance our ancestors shot at each other.


46 posted on 03/03/2016 3:29:55 PM PST by henkster
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster
"Is this the Gettysburg Republican Compiler reprinting an article from another periodical, the Washington Union?
I would guess that is a southern publication."

Yes, and there is no suggestion the Compiler is not sympathetic to that viewpoint.
Remember, in post #40, the Sentinel predicts (accurately) that if the Republicans and Americans (Know-nothings) both run presidential candidates, the result will be victory for the Democratic candidate, "whoever he may be".

Well, turns out that "whoever" was James Buchanan, from nearby Mercersburg and Carlisle, PA.
Buchanan more than any other individual I can think of personifies the words "Doughfaced Northern Democrat".
Highly sympathetic to slavery, Buchanan in 1861 expressed opposition to secession, but did nothing significant to stop it.

Point is: it was not unusual to find border-land Pennsylvanians sympathetic to slavery, and the South.

47 posted on 03/04/2016 4:45:05 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
Ongoing story from Kansas.

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Continued from January 24 (reply #120)

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Nicole Etcheson, "Bleeding Kansas: Contested Liberty in the Civil War Era"

48 posted on 03/04/2016 4:47:29 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

LOL at “... that ninney, Frank Pierce ...”. Who says politics used to be civil?


49 posted on 03/04/2016 5:49:44 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm going to be an optimist about this.)
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To: Tax-chick

“ninney”

Can’t remember when I last saw that word, had to look it up.
Turns out today it’s only spelled “ninny”, but certainly a ninny by any other spelling is just as foolish.

;-)


50 posted on 03/04/2016 7:01:00 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

19th century orthography is always a hoot. I think they tried deliberately to spell the same word as many different ways as possible.

How many of our current elected officials/candidates are ninneys? (How many are gibbering gerbils?)


51 posted on 03/04/2016 7:32:48 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm going to be an optimist about this.)
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To: Tax-chick

Easier to count how many are not?


52 posted on 03/04/2016 7:44:37 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

My state senator is an okay guy.


53 posted on 03/04/2016 7:50:58 AM PST by Tax-chick (I'm going to be an optimist about this.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
I think we can say with some confidence that, despite it's name, the Gettysburg Republican Compiler is actually a Democrat pro-slavery, anti-abolitionist paper, as illustrated by the following piece:
Note that the Compiler is here quoting favorably a Vermont Democratic paper's comments criticizing the New York Tribune's pro-abolitionist opinions.
So we might well surmise here that media bias is not an invention of our own age... ;-)

The Gettysburg Republican Compiler:

The explanation of how a pro-Democrat rag could carry the name Republican is doubtless that when the paper was first printed, circa 1819, it was in support of Jefferson's Democratic Republican party.

54 posted on 03/07/2016 6:47:28 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
As the nation's political machinery gears up for its November 1856 election, we can see an interesting early development in Harrisburg, PA.
Note the top name listed as nominated for President.
We may see that name again...

The Gettysburg Adams Sentinal

I'm not certain yet of the Sentinal's political leanings.
They seem pretty down-the-middle.

55 posted on 03/07/2016 6:59:06 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
And in international news:

The Gettysburg, PA, Adams Sentinal


56 posted on 03/07/2016 7:11:52 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
And finally, it's most astonishing to learn that even in the days before Anthropogenic Global Warming and Climate Change, not all their weather was perfectly mild and predictable.
This article tells of some pretty severe weather and damage in St. Louis, Missouri:

The Gettysburg Republican Compiler:


57 posted on 03/07/2016 7:19:15 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK
Oooooooooooops.

That article was also from the Gettysburg Adams Sentinal.

58 posted on 03/07/2016 7:22:08 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
The Chicopee, Mass. Weekly Journal
March 8, 1856

The Lost Son: A Touching Story – 1
A Wonderful Escape-1777 – 1
Has There Been Fighting? (editorial on Kansas) – 2
Chicopee News – 2
The Union is Safe! All Out! (editorial on recent speech by Edward Everett) – 2

Link to Chicopee Weekly Journal

59 posted on 03/08/2016 6:00:21 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: EternalVigilance

I spent a lot of time in Chicopee in my mis-guided youth as a result of my friend moving there from Springfield.

It is a hoot to read that paper. I dare say that their view of cesession doesn’t surprise me: “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”

Thanks for posting those. They are priceless. And nice copies too.


60 posted on 03/08/2016 11:00:24 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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