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March 1856
2004, 1978 | Nicole Etcheson, Don E. Fehrenbacher

Posted on 03/01/2016 5:06:06 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.
1 posted on 03/01/2016 5:06:06 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
New month, new thread. I have a few excerpts from Bleeding Kanas and Dred Scott beginning March 4. In the meantime post newspaper articles or other items of interest here. Here is a link to last month’s thread.

February 1856

2 posted on 03/01/2016 5:06:53 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Chicopee (MASS.) Weekly Journal, March 1, 1856

Click on the pdf to view the image.

http://www.chicopeepubliclibrary.org/archives/items/show/3815


3 posted on 03/01/2016 6:28:27 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

The Treaty of Paris was signed in March 1856, ending the Crimean War between Russia and England, France, and the Ottoman Empire.

The Massachusetts newspaper I posted above mentions this war which was winding down.

I’m only posting these as interesting background, as they have no direct reference to the material you’re dealing with.

I figure anything that gives one the sense of the times is useful.


4 posted on 03/01/2016 6:33:13 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Page two of the Chicopee Weekly Journal for March 1, 1856 that I linked above contains information about the Republican convention held in Pittsburg. Interestingly, they say that the most “ultra” anti-slavery speech was made by a delegate from South Carolina.

There is also quite a bit about Irish immigration, which of course would make quite a bit of difference just a few years down the road, in terms of manpower.

Also an article about saltpeter, which would matter greatly as well...

http://www.chicopeepubliclibrary.org/archives/files/original/a72b80b2f281be0534b85642ff6682c3.pdf


5 posted on 03/01/2016 6:41:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
On that note, and just because I have a few minutes:

The Charge of the Light Brigade

Alfred, Lord Tennyson

1.

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
"Forward, the Light Brigade!
"Charge for the guns!" he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

2.

"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

3.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.

4.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,
Flash'd as they turn'd in air,
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reel'd from the sabre stroke
Shatter'd and sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

5.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro' the jaws of Death
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

6.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made,
Honor the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred.


6 posted on 03/01/2016 7:14:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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A foreshadowing of things to come in America...


7 posted on 03/01/2016 7:26:26 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

From a pure territory point of view it looks like slavery is on the ascendancy but if you had a map that depicted RR track miles (as a proxy for industrialization) a different picture would likely emerge.


8 posted on 03/01/2016 7:30:02 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: EternalVigilance

General George McClellan was a Captain during the Crimean War and was a military observer. I had remembered that some Civil War notables had been there, and that’s what I found.

See item 3 here, for instance:
http://history1800s.about.com/od/europeanwars/fl/Five-Facts-About-the-Crimean-War.htm


9 posted on 03/01/2016 7:40:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Very interesting.

I wonder if that’s where he learned not to fight. lol...


10 posted on 03/01/2016 8:37:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: FreedomPoster; EternalVigilance
Tennyson: "Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley'd and thunder'd;"

The charge came from mistaken orders, sending the light cavalry to the wrong place.
It resulted in the loss of 40% of the attacking force, about 270 men.

At Gettysburg, General Lee ordered attacks on foot against troops dug into high ground.
That resulted in the loss of 37% of Lee's force, about 28,000 men.


11 posted on 03/01/2016 1:34:28 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
"...if you had a map that depicted RR track miles (as a proxy for industrialization) a different picture would likely emerge."

The South was not as backward in 1856 as sometimes asserted, indeed, it's been said (though I can't confirm) that, on average, Southerners lived closer to railroads than Northerners.
Their problem, of course, was they had little industrial infrastructure to build & maintain railroads, depending on their cotton exports to pay for everything.
Similar, we might say, to some oil-rich countries today.


12 posted on 03/01/2016 1:43:32 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

What an intriguing map.

The nearest rail heads to us here in western Iowa were at the Mississippi River and at St. Joe, Missouri.

Iowa had only been a state for four years. Our part of the state only had a smattering of people.


13 posted on 03/01/2016 2:06:07 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: BroJoeK

The railroad map is awesome. But it does shed a different light than the original map. The original map (to me) creates an impression of slavery on the ascendancy. The railroad map shows that the slaves were where the railroads were not as dense and vice versa.


14 posted on 03/01/2016 3:42:49 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: EternalVigilance; BroJoeK

The south generally lacked strategic east-west railroads suficient to shift forces and war materiel between theaters. The only time they really did was the loan of Longstreet’s Corps to the west for Chickamauga. The north, on the other hand could shift resources at will.

I’d also like to see a railroad map for 1865.


15 posted on 03/01/2016 6:01:51 PM PST by henkster
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To: henkster
1861

1865

1870

1890

Sorry that the 1865 map is so small. It's all I could find so far.

16 posted on 03/01/2016 9:40:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance; henkster

There are some nice maps here in 10 year spans. You will have to scroll down a bit to get to the maps.

http://users.humboldt.edu/ogayle/hist111/industrial.html

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


17 posted on 03/01/2016 10:40:04 PM PST by alfa6
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To: BroJoeK

Getting ahead of time a wee bit...

Somewhere at home I have a book on Gettysburg that proposes the theory that Picket’s Charge was to have taken place in conjunction with an attack by Stuart’s Calvary.

Unfortunately for Picket and the rest of the Confederate infantry Stuart ran into the Michigan Calvary units led by among others, Custer!

The Federal Calvary fought the Confederates to a stand still and left the Confederate infantry to the tender mercies of the entrenched Federal forces.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


18 posted on 03/01/2016 10:50:22 PM PST by alfa6
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To: EternalVigilance
EternalVigilance: "The nearest rail heads to us here in western Iowa were at..."

Didn't I-80 go past there in the late 1850s?
Ooooooh, sorry, wrong century. ;-)

19 posted on 03/02/2016 3:34:11 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
2 Kool: "The railroad map shows that the slaves were where the railroads were not as dense and vice versa."

If you study the Southern railroads carefully, you see that they are focused on bringing product -- mainly cotton -- to harbors for export worldwide.
Their starting points are those areas of highest production.

As for imagining slavery in areas of no railroads, no don't do that, because it was just the opposite.
What you should understand is that even by 1860, the Cotton South had only begun to use about a third of the land suitable for cotton.
By 1900, acreage producing cotton was triple what it had been in 1860.

So, where there were no railroads in 1860, there were very few people, period.
That's how some people say, on average, Southerners lived closer to a railroad than their northern cousins did.

20 posted on 03/02/2016 3:46:24 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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