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Who would you follow into battle?
11/11/2015 | Nikos1121

Posted on 11/11/2015 6:36:20 AM PST by nikos1121

I think debating is one thing... but doing and leading is another. The two are different as night and day.

Someone can have a great debate, e.g. Td Cruz always debates well, he's about as professional as it gets at it, but does he possess the trait that leaders have, i.e. that people will instinctively follow them? We hear that Jeb Bush did well last night, but will it change his persona of someone who might have the math down, but doesn't have the instincts when the going gets tough?

I bet the people at Apple would follow Steve Jobs in whatever direction he wished to take his company when he was alive and running it. We saw the trait in Reagan. WWII had its Patton and Churchill.

They can debate all they want, but I think it comes down to the doing.

So, let me ask all of you something, which is in my opinion the most imnportant question. You're in a fox hole. Which one of these candidates would you follow out of the fox hole to attack the enemy?

These are my answers.

Jeb? No. I doubt if he'd be up in the front leading very long, esp after the first defeat. Remember, George Washington was beat several times before he eventually won a great battle. I don't see any Georg Washington in Jeb.

Rubio? Maybe someday, but not now. I think Rubio, quite frankly is still an apprentice, but a good one.

Ted Cruz? Possibly, yes. I think he has the characteristics of someone who will fight to the finish. But his time, is not now.

Carson? Sorry, no. I'd be afraid he didn't read his compass right, and might be looking at too many options before committing. I don't see Carson, like Julius Ceasar burning his bridges to attack the enemy. He'd be great in the rear over seeing our MASH units.

Carli? I think she has leadership qualities, but I fear she might be getting into a battle we shouldn't be in. I see her as a good lieutenant.

Trump. Definitely yes. I think Trump, would be careful in the assault, and like Patton have the best trained army and advisors at hand. He's the Custer on the stand, more than anyone.

Rand Paul? Nope.

Christie? A good sergeant type, but not the general.

In short, Good People, we have tough tough times ahead. I think they can hold these debates until the cows and pigs come home in Iowa, but I think most Americans know, only one person has the ability to take us through this. And for now, that person is Donald Trump.


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To: usafa92
Great post! (#33). And when you think about it, the leadership types you described there are present in almost every large organization.
41 posted on 11/11/2015 7:20:41 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: nikos1121

You want to follow Custer into battle?


42 posted on 11/11/2015 7:21:13 AM PST by sphinx
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To: nikos1121

Ted Cruz! Absolutely!


43 posted on 11/11/2015 7:22:34 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: nikos1121

Ted Cruz


44 posted on 11/11/2015 7:23:02 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: nikos1121

The best attribute of Trump is his ability to get the people pumped up, excited about our prospects again. Obama has sapped the energy of America. We need a Cheerleader-in-Chief after the current dismal Divider-in-Chief.

Further, this country needs a strong leader who can rise above partisan politics & cronyism to put America first. Someone who is not beholding to either politicians or big money interests. Only Trump fits that bill.

Who would I follow into battle?

Trump because he oozes success, Cruz because he is too smart to do something stupid, & Christie because he is tough.

Carson no, he doesn’t have the heart of a warrior. All the rest are wishy-washy politicians who will walk us right into an ambush.


45 posted on 11/11/2015 7:23:08 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: nikos1121

I think Trump would throw me under a tank the first chance he got if it enhanced his own personal stature.


46 posted on 11/11/2015 7:23:39 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: usafa92; P-Marlowe

I agree. An excellent analysis.

I do believe that leadership can be trained, that experience is crucial, and that vision makes all the difference in motivating troops.

Trump has a vision of a United States as a sovereign nation.

Cruz’s vision is the same.

Rand Paul wants an independent, individual liberocracy.

Rubio envisions a well-oiled social engine.

Fiorina sees a functioning machine.

Bush sees a social democracy.

Kasich is the same.

Carson sees a wholesome, safe community.


47 posted on 11/11/2015 7:24:54 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: usafa92

What about David Patraeus?


48 posted on 11/11/2015 7:32:10 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: nikos1121

Anyone with the balls to pick up a rifle, don an LC2 harness with extra mags and take point.


49 posted on 11/11/2015 7:33:58 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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To: G Larry
" lacks the depth to execute foreign policy beyond narrow economic interests.

Cruz is the one that "lacks depth on foreign policy, and to back up my assessment of Cruz on foreign policy I submit the following. Right after the Egyptian military overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood government Cruz called for ending aid to Egypt and sanctions on Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood government was imposing an Islamic government on Egypt, murdering Christian and burning Churches and Cruz wanted to punish the military for overthrowing them? Really that's your depth guy? Give me a break.

Cruz Demands Obama End Aid to Egypt

50 posted on 11/11/2015 7:41:12 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: TheTimeOfMan
"Every single other vote has been conservative."

What was "conservative" about voting to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

51 posted on 11/11/2015 7:44:54 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: DiogenesLamp

EXACTLY!!!!!
I wouldn’t follow any of those Bozos currently running for President into battle. Did any of them even serve on active duty?

When I stopped to think of any living politician that I would be honored to follow, Col. West was the only one I could think of.


52 posted on 11/11/2015 7:59:06 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: null and void
Hmmmm. A Trump/West ticket would be quite viable.

Yes it would. Trump is already pulling a significant percentage of the black vote. I personally think Trump will win anyway if he gets the nomination, but Allen West would definitely get him higher percentages of the Black Vote.

That would pretty well solidify the election for Trump.

I am not a Trump supporter. I am a Cruz supporter. Trump has a lot of what we need, (feisty, will fight.) But Cruz has all of what we need. (Willingness to fight. Devotion to conservative principles, and the soul of a philosopher.)

That being said, I will happily vote for Trump, Carson or Cruz. If Jeb is the nominee, I will vote for Hlllary.

Might as well get the fires started.

53 posted on 11/11/2015 8:01:18 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: nikos1121

Ted Cruz.

He’s distinguishing himself as a born leader who can dominate and who can eviscerate the opposition, yet do so with intelligence and grace.


54 posted on 11/11/2015 8:10:25 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Would follow him anywhere!!


55 posted on 11/11/2015 8:13:18 AM PST by FES0844
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To: nikos1121
Who would you follow into battle?

One word: Sherman.


56 posted on 11/11/2015 8:14:10 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: LegendHasIt

Amen!


57 posted on 11/11/2015 8:17:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: FES0844

Amen!


58 posted on 11/11/2015 8:17:39 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: nikos1121

....Custer on the stand...

So you mean he would lead you into a battle against overwhelming odds, then use terrible tactics guaranteed to get you killed?
Epic fail.

If you wanted to illustrate a leader making a great, and successful, stand against overwhelming odds you should have gone with General McAuliffe at Bastogne.

Or any other of a number of notable leaders.
But Custer?


59 posted on 11/11/2015 8:43:43 AM PST by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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To: oldvirginian

Custer won several battles during the Civil War. He was undercut by Benteen. HIs battle plan was solid, but during the battle his troops did not do what they were supposed to do.


60 posted on 11/11/2015 8:54:35 AM PST by nikos1121 ("There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Thoreau)
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