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'Eternal flames' of ancient times could spark interest of modern geologists
Phys.Org ^ | 05-18-2015 | Provided by Springer

Posted on 05/18/2015 11:51:28 AM PDT by Red Badger

Seeps from which gas and oil escape were formative to many ancient cultures and societies. They gave rise to legends surrounding the Delphi Oracle, Chimaera fires and "eternal flames" that were central to ancient religious practices - from Indonesia and Iran to Italy and Azerbaijan. Modern geologists and oil and gas explorers can learn much by delving into the geomythological stories about the religious and social practices of the Ancient World, writes Guiseppe Etiope of the National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology in Italy. His research is published in the new Springer book Natural Gas Seepage.

"Knowing present-day gas fluxes from a seep and knowing that a seep was active and vigorous two thousand years ago, we can estimate the total amount of gas that has been released to the atmosphere thus far. What can be measured today is probably also valid, at least in terms of orders of magnitude, for the past," writes Etiope. "Such information may not only be relevant for atmospheric methane budget studies but may also be important for understanding the leaking potential of petroleum systems, whether they are commercial or not."

Gas-oil seeps have been the source of mythological tales, and many a Biblical and historic event. The observations of ancient naturalists and historians such as Pliny the Elder, who lived two millennia ago, helped to chronicle many of these occurrences, especially in the Mediterranean area. For example, he wrote about Chimaera, a large burning gas seep in modern day Turkey. In ancient times, the temple of Hephaestus, the Greek god of fire, was built next to it.

Similar "eternal fires" integrated gas and flame emissions into ancient religious practices in many cultures. For instance, the Zoroastrians worshiped the "Pillars of Fire" near modern Baku in Azerbaijan. In Iraq, the Baba Gurgur seep was probably the "burning fiery furnace" into which King Nebuchadnezzar cast the Jews. A legend of ancient Rome reports a stream of crude oil issuing from the ground around 38 BC. It became a meeting spot for the first Roman converts to Christianity, and is now the site for the Basilica of Santa Maria in Trastevere. The sacred Manggarmas flame in Indonesia, which has been active at least since the 15th century, is still used in an annual Buddhist ceremony.

"Knowing that a certain 'eternal fire' observed today was already active in Biblical times indicates that it was not triggered by the recent drilling and production of petroleum," adds Etiope.

Etiope writes that hydrocarbon seeps also influenced the social and technological development of many ancient populations. It not only contributed to global civilization, but was often the source of wars. The first evidence for petroleum usage comes from Syria, where the Neanderthal used natural bitumen on stone tools some 40,000 years ago.

More information: Etiope, G. (2015). Natural Gas Seepage: The Earth's Hydrocarbon Degassing. Chapter 9: Seeps in the Ancient World: Myths, Religions, and Social Development. DOI: 10.1007/978-3-319-14601-0_9

“Pillars of Fire” near Baku, Azerbaijan. © Guiseppe Etiope


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: chimaera; delphi; delphicoracle; energy; faithandphilosophy; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; greece; hephaestus; hydrocarbons; methane; naturalgas; oil; opec; oracleofdelphi; petroleum; zervan; zoroaster; zoroastrian; zoroastrianism; zoroastrians
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1 posted on 05/18/2015 11:51:28 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv; thackney

PINGGG!

ENERGY PINGGG!...........


2 posted on 05/18/2015 11:52:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

I’ve read of such here in the USA. Early Mountain men used to tell of the “tar spring” near the original Fort Hall Idaho. They often would set it on fire just to watch it burn.


3 posted on 05/18/2015 12:01:57 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Some times you need more than six shots. Much more.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Hold muh Coonskin hat and watch this!....................


4 posted on 05/18/2015 12:08:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks Red Badger.

5 posted on 05/19/2015 2:51:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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6 posted on 05/19/2015 2:53:05 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain

An old flame of yours?..............


7 posted on 05/19/2015 2:54:36 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: NorthMountain

Good one.


8 posted on 05/19/2015 2:56:09 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

< snicker >

She sure was hot back then ... and has apparently aged well.


9 posted on 05/19/2015 2:59:21 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Red Badger

Fracking! And Bushes fault


10 posted on 05/19/2015 3:12:33 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: NorthMountain

My First Thought.

I felt the same..

But maybe I’m only dreaming.


11 posted on 05/19/2015 6:11:15 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: left that other site

It’s just another manic Monday.

I wish it was Sunday.


12 posted on 05/19/2015 7:03:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: left that other site

And in all seriousness, I find these natural petroleum seeps fascinating. I’ve done some flying around Santa Barbara (CA) ... the natural gas seeps off shore make some really spectacular disturbances in the water. Probably can’t see them from the beach, but from the air the patches of fizzy water are really striking.


13 posted on 05/19/2015 7:05:18 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: NorthMountain

I have the cure for that.

Close your eyes...

Give me your hand, baby.


14 posted on 05/19/2015 7:08:00 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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A gas seep, perhaps the source of the biblical “burning bush.”


15 posted on 05/19/2015 10:44:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

And the gas started talking? And somehow didn’t burn down the bush?


16 posted on 05/20/2015 5:56:16 AM PDT by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com)
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To: Red Badger

Jut saw this thread. More from earlier:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2717607/posts?page=44#44


17 posted on 09/25/2015 5:18:12 PM PDT by odds
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To: NorthMountain

“Talk like an Egyptian”? :D


18 posted on 09/25/2015 5:20:13 PM PDT by odds
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To: Red Badger

The first oil well drilled in California was in Humboldt County in 1865. There were natural seeps used by the Indians for who knows how long.


19 posted on 09/25/2015 5:33:01 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: odds

Freddy Mercury, the late rock singer of Queen, was Zoroastrian.....................Real name: Farrokh Bulsara...................


20 posted on 09/28/2015 6:21:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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