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Why Women Choose Bad Boys
Live Science ^ | 05/15/2012

Posted on 05/16/2012 6:19:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Women choose bad boys because their hormones make them, new research suggests. When ovulating a woman's hormones influence who she sees as good potential fathers, and they specifically pick sexier men over obviously more dependable men.

"Previous research has shown in the week near ovulation women become attracted to sexy, rebellious and handsome men like George Clooney or James Bond," study researcher Kristina Durante, of The University of Texas at San Antonio, said in a statement. "But until now it was unclear why women would ever think it's wise to pursue long-term relationships with these kinds of men."

The study was published today, May 14, in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

The researchers had women view online dating profiles of either a sexy man or a reliable man during periods of both high and low fertility. Participants were asked to indicate the expected paternal contribution from the men if they had a child together based on how helpful the man would be caring for the baby, shopping for food, cooking and contributing to household chores. Near ovulation women thought that the sexy man would contribute more to these domestic duties.

"Under the hormonal influence of ovulation, women delude themselves into thinking that the sexy bad boys will become devoted partners and better dads," Durante said. "When looking at the sexy cad through ovulation goggles, Mr. Wrong looked exactly like Mr. Right."

The researchers followed up that find with a second study in which women interacted directly with male actors who played the roles of sexy cad and reliable dad once during ovulation and again at low fertility. Again, ovulating women thought that the sexy cad — but not the reliable dad — would contribute more to childcare, but only as her partner

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To: EDINVA
Some women will be attracted to a homely man with the ‘bad boy look’ more quickly than to a handsome, solid/sober/responsible guy.

You may have just described why I enjoyed so much success in the dating world. It's been over 21 years now, and I still miss dating.

81 posted on 05/16/2012 9:51:01 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: allmendream; PapaBear3625
Part of the pre-vetting is that a man in a relationship seems safe. A women hung out with him, went over to his place, spent the night in his bed - and didn't wind up beaten up or dead or locked in a box under the bed.

So many people sabotage their own relationships/dating/marriages with basic, simple errors ahead of time.

A guy I work out with is in his late 40's, never married. Super nice guy, above average looks and is fit with a good job. Problem is he still lives with his parents-never moved out. As soon as women find out before dating him or after the first date they run like the wind. He is automatically looked upon as a loser.

My uncle married a woman in her late 30's-both their first marriages though he dated a lot in the past. Divorced 2 years later. She was a virgin when he met her and guess what? She was as frigid as a popsicle. Zero sex drive. Sex maybe 5-6 times per year not matter what he did. He should have put 2+2 together and figured ahead of time sex was not a priority in her life... at that age with her still being a virgin and should have discussed it in detail what to expect. We asked him what were you thinking?

82 posted on 05/16/2012 9:56:24 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: trailhkr1
I dated a woman from a traditional culture that was a 36 year old virgin. I figured she might have potential and asked her if she engaged in masturbation - when she said no I was very troubled by her lack of sex drive and lack of even self experience with sexuality.

We spent a few nights together, and she was not comfortable receiving pleasure. After fooling around a little (very little) she told me it was the first time she had touched a man's sexual organ - I replied “I could tell”.

Later she seemed disappointed that things didn't go further and told me “If you want something you have to TAKE it!” and I told her in my culture that is considered RAPE.

I broke up with her after going to Sea World and she wore stupid shoes for a day of standing around and walking around. Who has the time to train someone up from nothing in their late 30’s? I didn't have much hope at that point that it was fertile sexual soil just waiting for the right conditions to spring up into a garden.

Sometimes when someone misses the boat - it sails on without them - and they never will make it to the promised land.

83 posted on 05/16/2012 10:11:12 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: trailhkr1
My uncle married a woman in her late 30's-both their first marriages though he dated a lot in the past. Divorced 2 years later. She was a virgin when he met her and guess what? She was as frigid as a popsicle. Zero sex drive. Sex maybe 5-6 times per year not matter what he did. He should have put 2+2 together and figured ahead of time sex was not a priority in her life... at that age with her still being a virgin and should have discussed it in detail what to expect. We asked him what were you thinking?

That particular kind of naivete is especially prevalent on FR. I can no longer remember the FReeperette's name, but on a thread a long time ago, she even postulated that most couples give up french kissing early into marriage. Having been married over 20 years, I assured her that was not the case in healthy marriages, which led to an exchange that left me with nothing but a profound sympathy for her husband.

84 posted on 05/16/2012 10:11:29 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Your mileage may vary but he vast majority of women prefer taller men just as most men prefer thinne rwomen.

While few men want a skinny bag of hangers like fashion models, they don’t want fat women; a few men like fat women but not many.

Even my 5’1” wife wanted a tall man. Go figure.


85 posted on 05/16/2012 10:13:21 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: allmendream
I dated a woman from a traditional culture that was a 36 year old virgin. I figured she might have potential and asked her if she engaged in masturbation - when she said no I was very troubled by her lack of sex drive and lack of even self experience with sexuality.

Makes perfect sense to me. The problem is that you'll find a number of equally misguided men, who would look upon the above description positively, only to find themselves married to her and unable to shake the lonely, unloved feeling that would permeate their marriage.

86 posted on 05/16/2012 10:18:21 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
That was one of my major problems - she would be a real prize to SOME men who valued such ‘undeveloped real estate’ - but for me it would be a total waste.

I have no desire to be (at this stage of my life) a woman's first - just to be her BEST! ;)

Out of the dating pool now, thankfully. Sexy nurse with piles of books in every room of her house got me all lovey dovey with great sex, lots of love, and an open offer of sex on demand.

Women could learn a lot from her. I am marrying her as soon as possible. ;)

87 posted on 05/16/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: BwanaNdege
Was the implication that 30% of kids are fathered by someone other than the assumed father? Skewed data source.

Yes, those numbers came from testing done where the "official" father suspected something.

For cases not involving father suspicion, it varies, depending on country, race, and socio-economic status.

One study, "Measuring paternal discrepancy and its public health consequences", looked at various other studies. For non-disputed paternity (ie, the testing was not done because the father suspected anything), USA results were

Michigan white sample: 1.4%

Michigan black sample: 10.1%

California white sample: 2.7%

Hawaiian families: 2.3%


88 posted on 05/16/2012 10:28:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I canÂ’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Melas
The problem is that you'll find a number of equally misguided men, who would look upon the above description positively, only to find themselves married to her and unable to shake the lonely, unloved feeling that would permeate their marriage.

It goes both ways. You always hear about the frigid wife but just as many women want more intimacy and passion in their marriage and are not getting it. Their husbands ignore them for various reasons..porn, hobbies or jobs that consume their lives. Lot of sexually frustrated Peg Bundy's out there.

89 posted on 05/16/2012 10:29:50 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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To: Melas
Having been married over 20 years, I assured her that was not the case in healthy marriages,

Having been together close to 30 years, I agree with you.

90 posted on 05/16/2012 10:32:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I canÂ’t be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Very interesting.

I had heard from geneticists, who have the unenviable task of reconciling reported heredity with ACTUAL heredity - that the rate was about 10%.

That always seemed high to me.

While the 30% rate is obviously way too high - because of self selection bias; most men do not test paternity unless they suspect something - and in 70% of cases their fears are unwarranted.

91 posted on 05/16/2012 10:32:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Tax-chick

Cloning technology...

Just sayin’...


92 posted on 05/16/2012 10:36:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: muir_redwoods
Even my 5’1” wife wanted a tall man. Go figure.

Meh, the story of my life could be summed up with, "I never thought I'd date a man as short as you." I heard it so much that if I account for those who were too polite to say it, I'd have to say that every single one of them thought it. As a matter of fact, my wife's very first words to me were, "You're too short."

I know what all the studies say, I know what women claim, etc etc, but it's never seemed to have been an actual deal breaker in my life.

93 posted on 05/16/2012 10:37:31 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: PapaBear3625

Wow, what a comprehensive reply!

Thanks, that confirms my suspicions.

(About the data, not my kids. All four are definitely mine. No possibilities otherwise, no worries.)


94 posted on 05/16/2012 10:44:37 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: trailhkr1

They just don’t look like good Mothers. Out of bed with them.


95 posted on 05/16/2012 10:46:51 AM PDT by rlbedfor
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To: allmendream
Out of the dating pool now, thankfully. Sexy nurse with piles of books in every room of her house got me all lovey dovey with great sex, lots of love, and an open offer of sex on demand.

Just confirms my unpublished but heavily tested theory that wearing lab jackets all day increases a woman's libido. Sounds strange but the data is overwhelming. Never once dated a doctor or a nurse who wasn't healthily lustful. Even since being married, since almost all of our friends are one of the above, observation is still confirming my lab jacket theory. I should ask for a grant.

96 posted on 05/16/2012 10:54:17 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: trailhkr1; the invisib1e hand

Women who smoke and/or have tats/piercings exhibit a history of making bad decisions. Which depending on what someone is after, may not be a bad thing.


97 posted on 05/16/2012 10:54:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: trailhkr1
It goes both ways. You always hear about the frigid wife but just as many women want more intimacy and passion in their marriage and are not getting it. Their husbands ignore them for various reasons..porn, hobbies or jobs that consume their lives. Lot of sexually frustrated Peg Bundy's out there.

Agreed, but it usually takes a different form, or at least it seems to from what I hear from my wife. Her friends have been known to complain that their husbands are too devoted to the quickie, and by that I don't mean problems with being premature. Seems like a lot of these guys want to golf all day, play on the computer until she's been in bed for half an hour, and then expect a wham bam thank you ma'am before nodding off to sleep.

98 posted on 05/16/2012 10:59:43 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: rlbedfor

What do good mothers look like?


99 posted on 05/16/2012 11:00:26 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: FreedomPoster
Women who smoke and/or have tats/piercings exhibit a history of making bad decisions. Which depending on what someone is after, may not be a bad thing.

I disagree and think you are generalizing. My previous gf I was referring to never smoked but did have tat's and some piercings. Very intelligent, working on a graduate degree, great job, never in trouble.

Fun, fun girl. Lively, full of energy, humorous. She made something as mundane as gift wrapping an enjoyable time. Even the way she walked and presented herself.

Some women(and men) are so serious they walk around with what seems a stick up their butt and have a scowl on their face. You just want to tell them to lighten up.

.There is just something different about those women(my ex)..maybe they don't take life as serious.

100 posted on 05/16/2012 11:06:25 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (All you need to know about Zimmerman, innocent = riots, manslaughter = riots, guilty = riots)
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