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Io Creates Spots on Jupiter (glowing spots come from electron beams whipping around moon Io)
Space.com on Yahoo ^ | 3/17/08 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 03/17/2008 8:17:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Newfound glowing spots on Jupiter seem unexpectedly to come from electron beams whipping around the giant planet's volcanic moon Io.

Io is the most volcanic body in the solar system, with its entire surface likely made up of lava from the moon's hundreds of volcanoes.

Io also causes glowing spots hundreds of miles across on its mother planet that are similar to the aurora borealis or northern lights in the Northern Hemisphere on Earth.

As Jupiter spins, its magnetic field sweeps past Io, stripping off roughly 1 ton (about 1,000 kilograms) of matter off Io every second. This matter becomes electrically charged plasma in the magnetic field, forming a doughnut-shaped cloud. As Io orbits the planet, plasma surges around it like rivers do around boulders, creating waves that blast Jupiter's atmosphere with electrons to create auroras.

The glowing spots on Jupiter are typically located downstream of the flow of charged particles from the plasma torus. Now a team of planetologists unexpectedly found auroras occurring upstream of this flow.

"The results are surprising because no theory predicted upstream spots," said researcher Bertrand Bonfond of the University of Liege in Belgium.

Bonfond and colleagues in Belgium and Germany saw these new spots by using the Hubble Space Telescope to observe Jupiter in ultraviolet wavelengths.

The researchers think interactions between Io and Jupiter cause electrons to curve from one hemisphere of the planet around the moon to the other hemisphere, creating these unexpected spots, Bonfond told SPACE.com.

These new findings could shed light on very common occurrences in the universe — when electrically conductive bodies such as Io orbit near magnetic bodies such as Jupiter. For example, some recently discovered exoplanets are thought to be in such configurations with their parent stars.

To further test their new theory of how these glowing spots form, Bonfond and his colleagues plan further observations of the auroras later this year, after scheduled repairs and improvements to Hubble are made.

The scientists detailed their findings online March 15 in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; creates; jupiter; spots
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1 posted on 03/17/2008 8:17:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

HDTV beamed toward Jupiter?


2 posted on 03/17/2008 8:19:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (God is in control ... not Global Warming.)
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Hubble Space Telescope ultraviolet image of the northern pole of Jupiter. Among many other auroral structures, the Io footprint is the most equator-ward feature close to the centre of the image. This spot is always located close to the feet of the magnetic field lines connected to the satellite Io. Credit: LPAP/Université de Liège


3 posted on 03/17/2008 8:20:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

whipping-electron-beam alert.


4 posted on 03/17/2008 8:42:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (no, I don't read my mail.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Where can I get me a plasma torus and what kind of mileage does it get?


5 posted on 03/17/2008 10:39:12 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: AndrewC; commonguymd; dozer7; Eaker; ForGod'sSake; Fractal Trader; Fred Nerks; FReepaholic; ...
Gee... Electric currents in space... who would'a thunk it... PING!

If you want on or off the Electric Universe Ping List, Freepmail me.

6 posted on 03/18/2008 12:39:41 AM PDT by Swordmaker (There ain't no such thing as a free app...)
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To: Swordmaker
Bonfond and colleagues in Belgium and Germany saw these new spots by using the Hubble Space Telescope to observe Jupiter in ultraviolet wavelengths.

How will the folks at Nasa explain this I wonder...

7 posted on 03/18/2008 12:52:14 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: NormsRevenge

Are there glowing spots on Uranus?


8 posted on 03/18/2008 2:39:30 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: mozarky2
". . . electron beams whipping around . . .
". . . sweeps past . . .
". . . plasma surges . . .
". . . flows . . . like rivers do around boulders . . .
". . . waves that blast Jupiter's atmosphere . . .
". . . flow of charged particles . . .
". . . downstream . . . upstream of this flow . . ."

Good Grief! What an amazing dance to avoid using a word.

How many analogies do they have to use to gingerly step around what they are actually describing? How many euphemisms can the authors of this article come up with to avoid using the word "currents?"

What they are trying to describe - without offending the mavens of the orthodox cosmology who hold the purse strings of scientific publishing, grants, and funding - is something that mainstream astronomers and cosmologists have been denying for almost 70 years: electrical currents flow in space through plasmas and that electromagnetism and plasmas have a decided effect on cosmology.

"The results are surprising because no theory predicted upstream spots," said researcher Bertrand Bonfond of the University of Liege in Belgium."

That's a false assertion. Seven time Nobel Prize nominee physicist Kristian Birkeland and Nobel Prize winning physicist Hannes Alfvén predicted it starting in about 1900.

You'd think these space scientists would be somewhat familiar with the history of Auroral and plasma physics. Apparently not.

They've bought into the canard that space is neutral and that there are no flows of electrons between astral bodies. It's accepted dogma in orthodox cosmology... without a shred of evidence... and contrary to mountains of evidence to the contrary.

The electrical Universe theorists who follow Birkeland and Alfvén are not surprised at all at the surprise of the mainstream orthodox scientists whose cosmology has failed time and time again to predict any of these anomalies... while they are entirely expected and predicted in the Electric Universe.

When might these proponents of this "new theory" start wondering why the great "volcano" on Io has moved its plume over 180 Km since it was first observed... and how that could be possible if it were a merely volcano lava spout?

9 posted on 03/18/2008 3:29:37 AM PDT by Swordmaker (There ain't no such thing as a free app...)
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To: Swordmaker
I found your post very interesting. The degree to which science seems enthralled by dogma is very disturbing. Also, it made me think of this:


10 posted on 03/18/2008 5:27:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Swordmaker; Fred Nerks
Good Grief! What an amazing dance to avoid using a word.

Indeed; I sit here in utter amazement! Words can't begin to describe my unmitigated and unadulterted disdain for the effort the scientific community® puts into propping up their failed theories. I'm speechless.

BTW, there needs to be a name for this dance; the Chicken Dance is already taken. What about the "Dogma Dance"??? Or maybe, the "Grant Dance"? The "Scientific Shuffle"??? Or, the "Sagan Sashay"?

11 posted on 03/18/2008 9:38:39 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Swordmaker

The aurora is visible here most every time it is dark enough. If something were adding particles, bsides the sun alone, we would see additional display. No doubt about it.


12 posted on 03/18/2008 9:42:26 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Swordmaker; NormsRevenge; 75thOVI; AFPhys; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; ...
Thanks Swordmaker, and NormsRevenge.
 
Catastrophism
 
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13 posted on 03/18/2008 9:43:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/______________________Profile updated Saturday, March 1, 2008)
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To: NormsRevenge
Electrons, huh?

I think they might be neutrons dancing:

I'm just burning doin' the neutron dance

I'm just burning doin' the neutron dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Ump37ddQA

14 posted on 03/18/2008 9:43:30 AM PDT by chs68
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To: NormsRevenge

Loosing that much mass, how long will Io stay in orbit?


15 posted on 03/18/2008 11:38:18 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: SunkenCiv; Swordmaker; ForGod'sSake
Seven time Nobel Prize nominee physicist Kristian Birkeland and Nobel Prize winning physicist Hannes Alfvén predicted it starting in about 1900.

In Worlds in Collision, published in 1950, Velikovsky wrote:

The accepted celestial mechanics, notwithstanding the many calculations that have been carried out to many decimal places, or verified by celestial motions, stands only If the sun, the source of light, warmth, and other radiation produced by fusion and fission of atoms is as a whole an electrically neutral body, and also if the planets, in their usual orbits, are neutral bodies.

Fundamental principles in celestial mechanics including the law of gravitation, must come into question if the sun possesses a charge sufficient to influence the planets in their orbits or the comets in theirs. In the Newtonian celestial mechanics, based on the theory of gravitation, electricity and magentism play no role.

16 posted on 03/18/2008 3:32:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Fred Nerks

I REALLY need to get my hands on WIC. Many of V’s ideas are grist for the scientific mill, or should be.


17 posted on 03/18/2008 7:45:38 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: mozarky2

RE: Are there glowing spots on Uranus?

Do the “bright clouds” of Uranus count?

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/solar-system/uranus/

I’ve wondered about them for a while now.

Regards,
~Michael


18 posted on 07/21/2008 3:18:06 PM PDT by mgmirkin
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To: Swordmaker

RE: “Good Grief! What an amazing dance to avoid using a word.”

Can we please call it the Electric Shuffle? Ohh, wait, that’s taken.

Electric Slide? Nah... Too cheesy.

The “ostrich dance?” *Heads in the sand, butts hangin’ out in the breeze...*

Now THAT’s a comic image!

~Michael


19 posted on 07/21/2008 4:10:56 PM PDT by mgmirkin
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To: Swordmaker

Just a refresher:

Flow of positive charges in one direction in a circuit: “Conventional current.”

Flow of negative charges in one direction in a circuit: “electron flow” or “electron current.” Considered the opposite direction from the “conventional current” in EE circuit diagrams.

Flow of positive charges one way and negative charges the opposite way in the same circuit: “Bi-directional current” or “bi-directional flow.” (Additive, as I recall.)

Equal amounts of positive and negative charges flowing in the SAME direction essentially cancel each other out in a circuit diagram, so there’s effectively no current.

From my understanding anyway...

See:

(Which Way Does the “Electricity” Really Flow?)
http://amasci.com/amateur/elecdir.html

Regards,
~Michael Gmirkin


20 posted on 07/21/2008 4:10:57 PM PDT by mgmirkin
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