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You need to understand this if you hope to convince any libs to be conservative. Actually this still might not work, but it is the best approach we have....
1 posted on 08/25/2016 8:10:39 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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I work with a number of lawyers who are all ultra-liberal. They openly state that in terms of politics, the ends justify the means. They acknowledge the weakness of Obama and the corruption of the Clintons, but view it as a necessary evil to ensure that the Democrats remain in power to push the liberal agenda on every issue. They would sell the souls of their own children to ensure a liberal gets appointed to the Supreme Court.


2 posted on 08/25/2016 8:16:34 AM PDT by littleharbour
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It is because for liberals the act of ‘feeling’ trumps all others. Outcome does not matter; only that you ‘feel’ appropriately.


3 posted on 08/25/2016 8:21:38 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I think liberals are a bit insane. Their ideas seem almost completely backward from truth and they can’t understand why the outcomes of their decisions are bad.


5 posted on 08/25/2016 8:22:44 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Declaration of Independence “[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”

The people and their leaders in 2016 are no longer virtuous. Therefore, the ground is fertile for tyranny to grow.


6 posted on 08/25/2016 8:22:47 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Tomorrow is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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W used to drive me crazy, saying about abortion: “There are good people on both sides of this issue.”

Right. There are good people who think ripping babies to pieces is just peachy.

The Left is just the world’s evil people. The Right is a mixture of good and bad people.


7 posted on 08/25/2016 8:25:27 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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A liberal cannot be convinced; in order for the liberal's mindset to change, s/he must be converted. To be converted is to experience metanoia, a complete change of one's thought process.

This usually requires being placed in a situation where every significant event runs counter to one's mindset. For example, most of those who were "America First" isolationists on December 6, 1941, were converted to gung-ho destruction of the Axis over the next 48 hours. That the events of September 11, 2001 did not convert the liberals to the eminent danger of jihadism, and the inherent superiority of Judeo-Christian-Aristotelian principles, forces one to a grave conclusion, that it will take a much more grievous event to shake them from their foundational principles and experience the metanoia necessary for our national and philosophical survival.

8 posted on 08/25/2016 8:26:56 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Well I can’t click on the vid, so I’ve no clue what it says.
But I can comment anyway!!

Today’s liberals don’t even understand the philosophical underpinnings of their own ideology (groupthink.) They just let themselves be told what to think by their commie overlords.
Whatever is trendy right now, they’re all for it.
Anyone who believes that right and wrong are objective (originating from a God outside ourselves and our own desires) eternal and irreversible, is “on the wrong side of history,” according to Commie groupthink.

Communist ideology is essentially based on the Hegelian notion of thesis + antithesis = synthesis, then repeat with the synthesis becoming the new thesis.
Whatever is true now + what is false = the new truth. Repeat ad infinitum.

So the truth keeps changing. What is truth? Whatever the loudest mouth and biggest guns say it is.
This is why you can be on the right side of history (i.e. a revered Party leader) one minute, and the next thing you know, you’re being stood up against the wall and shot.


9 posted on 08/25/2016 8:40:50 AM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again.)
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He says Liberals are more open to new ideas and people.
I disagree.
Both Liberals and Conservatives can be open to new ideas and people.
The difference comes when those ideas and people turn out to be destructive, Conservatives will say "Enough!" while Liberals will remain "open" and deny the problems or blame it on conservatives not being "open" enough.

10 posted on 08/25/2016 8:41:01 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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I had an acquaintance ( member of a club I belonged to
He was a liberal

We used to argue and as usual I was Hitler
He worked for the Federal Government

He was passed over for promotion by an affirmative action type

His BIL was a Philly Cop who had a heart attack while putting down a semi riot at a HS
While on the ground the students gathered round and laughed
He died

My former lib became a conservative
11 posted on 08/25/2016 8:42:42 AM PDT by uncbob
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Liberalism is a mental disorder. Facts do not cure mental disorders.


12 posted on 08/25/2016 8:47:24 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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As a moral question, ask a liberal if, after FDR beat Hitler, would they have supported Truman rearming the Nazis to help fight against Tojo in Japan?

After they answer "of course not," ask them why would they vote for the person who armed the 9/11 al Qaeda terrorists so they could fight against Assad in Syria, who then took those arms, became ISIS, and murdered our ambassador and three others in Libya before going on a murderous rampage across the Middle East?

-PJ

13 posted on 08/25/2016 8:48:37 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.From Foxnews, May 31,)
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Pretty simple answer. Lots of research indicates people make decisions on emotions, then search for facts to support their decisions.


15 posted on 08/25/2016 8:51:52 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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“a conservative insight is that order is precious, difficult to achieve and easy to destroy.” (quote approximate)

American “conservatism” conserves freedom - the ability to change, to do a job other than what your father did, for example. For freedom to be efficacious, there needs to be reward for accomplishment. Society naturally does this. Government, in the “liberal” vision, breaks down that reward system. “You didn’t build that” is equivalent to saying, “I do not recognize your right to own that.”

In the liberal vision, “somebody else made that happen” - and they are right. “Somebody else” mentored the businessman, “somebody else” built the road the store goes by, and so forth. But it is SOCIETY - not government - which “did that.”


24 posted on 08/25/2016 9:01:25 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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Unless there’s a foundation for Judeo-Christian morality, it’s impossible to have a discussion with a liberal. They don’t believe this country was founded on these principles, in my experience anyway. You can’t even move forward unless you have that.


25 posted on 08/25/2016 9:03:00 AM PDT by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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Liberals = FEELINGS
Conservatives - LOGIC

This will explain why the plans the liberals make never work out .. they never follow the logic of what they’re doing .. to see what the possible outcomes might be.

But, a person like Trump .. deals with LOGIC. His plans always work out, because he follows it through to the end of the project - and the building always is wonderful .. LOGIC and PLANNING .. things the liberals and THEIR FEELINGS never take into consideration.


40 posted on 08/25/2016 9:22:02 AM PDT by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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You can not convince a liberal to become a conservative. Not a real liberal any way.

The whole basis of liberal ideology is that they want to boss people around.

Camazotz is the liberal dream world although they all want to be It.

42 posted on 08/25/2016 9:25:54 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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I think being a lib means suppressing your conscience.
When your basic m.o. is getting something for nothing you know that you are taking from someone else.
The lib conscience isn’t worried about harming someone else so much as getting caught or losing their advantage or special status.
Suppressing your conscience manifests itself in all kind of mental issues...paranoia, escapism,fantasies, projecting, narcissism, depression...
The poor/uneducated “libs” sellout for welfare crumbs while the rich/educated libs sell out for government “perks”


43 posted on 08/25/2016 9:29:37 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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44 posted on 08/25/2016 9:29:51 AM PDT by aquila48
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I have to disagree that one of the 2 values Liberals primarily use is Fairness/cheating. Most of the liberals I have dealt with (among my relatives, employees, local government) think lying and cheating are just fine for them if it gets them what they want. Just play board games with them (they believe cheating is just a strategy to win), or talk to them about issues with getting coverage from Auto insurance - if the insurance company pays in one circumstance (an event is classified as an Act of God) but not another (incident is evidence of carelessness), they are quick to say “Oh, just lie about it, they won't know). I don't hear many people with a solid moral foundation saying that.
50 posted on 08/25/2016 10:10:22 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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