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Was Ebola Behind the Black Death?
ABC News ^ | July 30, 2014 | Jen Sterling

Posted on 10/01/2014 6:26:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Controversial new research suggests that contrary to the history books, the "Black Death" that devastated medieval Europe was not the bubonic plague, but rather an Ebola-like virus.

History books have long taught the Black Death, which wiped out a quarter of Europe's population in the Middle Ages, was caused by bubonic plague, spread by infected fleas that lived on black rats. But new research in England suggests the killer was actually an Ebola-like virus transmitted directly from person to person.

The Black Death killed some 25 million Europeans in a devastating outbreak between 1347 and 1352, and then reappeared periodically for more than 300 years. Scholars had thought flea-infested rats living on ships brought the disease from China to Italy and then the rest of the continent.

But researchers Christopher Duncan and Susan Scott of the University of Liverpool say that the flea-borne bubonic plague could not have torn across Europe the way the Black Death did....

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; History; Science
KEYWORDS: blackdeath; blackplague; bubonicplague; disease; ebola; epidemics; godsgravesglyphs; pandemics; sniffles; yersiniapestis
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To: shibumi
An actual lab sample of Beebo tissue

Bubo? Booper? I think not.

41 posted on 10/09/2014 3:09:47 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Make it worth their while.)
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To: Salamander

I was always taught to spit out the booper when eating a Beebo.


42 posted on 10/09/2014 3:16:40 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“new research suggests...”

famous catch-all phrase that allows one to say ANYTHING and get away with it! LOL!


43 posted on 10/09/2014 4:55:19 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fleas hitch rides on rats who hitch rides on anything they can...including ships.

Not likely, but it is possible that both Ebola, The 'Spanish' (1918) Flu, and the Black Death all caused cytokine storms in a large number of the victims, leading to similar symptoms and similar outcomes.

44 posted on 10/09/2014 7:30:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

45 posted on 10/09/2014 7:31:46 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Christopher Duncan and Susan Scott of the University of Liverpool

Who can trust anything coming out of UK universities since East Anglia is a proven fraud monger.

46 posted on 10/09/2014 7:35:33 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Russia is now our best hope for stopping the conquest of the progressives)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Rat fleas and dog fleas are quite host specific.

Cat fleas bite anything/one warm.

Buried history.


47 posted on 10/09/2014 7:54:52 AM PDT by Salamander (People will stare. Make it worth their while.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A former SEAL who became a history professor at UC Davis came to the same conclusion about 20 years ago. Historiographers started matching hospital and doctors logs of the time period against the conventional historical conclusions and it didn’t match up.

What the documents were showing indicated hemorrhagic fever symptoms rather than plague.

Also, the number of people dying in certain places, and hwo fast they seemed to do it indicated that it probably wasn’t plague.

He wasn’t suggesting plague didn’t happen. He was indicating that something like Ebola was happening around the same period.


48 posted on 10/09/2014 9:32:41 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Salamander
Rat fleas and dog fleas are quite host specific.

No crossover at Rat Terriers?

49 posted on 10/09/2014 9:33:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Plagues are not mutually exclusive.

The middle ages also had a plague, mostly in England, called “The Dreaded Sweat”, that killed within a day of the first symptoms, and killed many thousands. Suspicions are that it was similar to hantavirus pulmonary syndrome (HPS), caused by rodent droppings. This also may have decimated the Chinese military during the Korean War.

http://www.historytoday.com/blog/2014/05/dreaded-sweat-other-medieval-epidemic

During that period they also suffered terribly from Dysentery, aka “The Bloody Flux”, Ergotism from contaminated grain, and several other diseases.

http://www.labelle.org/top_diseases.html


50 posted on 10/09/2014 10:45:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Read the old accounts.

The Buboes sometimes were bloody, and not all had them. There was also subdermial bleeding (look up pictures of Marburg victims), blood out of all the orifices, and many other symptoms not associated with Y. Pestis.

So while I (personally) think that much of it is explained by Y. Pestis, some of the symptoms suggest another disease.

Not saying it was Ebola. There are a number of hemorrhagic fevers.


51 posted on 10/09/2014 11:00:01 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


52 posted on 10/09/2014 9:31:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


53 posted on 10/10/2014 3:04:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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