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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Iwo Jima - Feb. 19th, 2003
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Posted on 02/19/2003 5:36:51 AM PST by SAMWolf

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The Costliest Operation
in Marine Corps History

On Monday, February 19, 1945, U.S. Marines hit the sands of Iwo Jima.

The battle for Iwo Jima can be described in many ways.

Most simply, 70,000 Marines routed 22,000 Japanese in a 36 day battle. It bore little resemblance to today's' modern warfare. It was a fight of gladiators. Gladiators in the catacombs of the Coliseum fighting among trap doors and hidden tunnels. Above ground gladiators using liquid gasoline to burn the underground gladiators out of their lethal hiding places.



The Marines had overwhelming force and controlled the sea and air. The Japanese had the most ingenious and deadly fortress in military history.

The Marines had Esprit de Corps and felt they could not lose. The Japanese fought for their god-Emperor and felt they had to die fighting.



The Marines were projecting American offensive power thousands of miles from home shores with a momentum that would carry on to create the Century of the Pacific. The Japanese were fighting a tenacious defensive battle protecting the front door to their ancient land.

The geography, topography and geology of the island guaranteed a deadly and bizarre battle. The large numbers of men and small size of the island ensured the fighting would be up close and vicious.

Almost one hundred thousand men would fight on a tiny island just eight square miles. Four miles by two miles. If you're driving 60 miles an hour in your car, it takes you four minutes to drive four miles. It took the Marines 36 days to slog that four miles. Iwo Jima would be the most densely populated battlefield of the war with one hundred thousand combatants embraced in a death dance over an area smaller than one third the size of Manhattan island.



From the air the island looked like a bald slice of black moonscape shaped like a porkchop. All its foliage had been blown off by bombs. The only "life" visible on the island were puffs of "rotten egg" stinking sulphur fumes coming from vents that seemed connected to hell. Correspondents in airplanes could see tens of thousands of Marines on one side of the island fighting against a completely barren side of stone.

On foot it was a morass of soft volcanic sand or a jumble of jagged rock. The Marines sought protection in shell holes blasted by the bombardment. Foxholes were impossible to dig, either the sand collapsed in on you or your shovel failed to dent the hard obsidian floor.

Bullets and mortars would come from nowhere to kill. The Marines would come across a cave or blockhouse and shoot and burn all its defenders to death. They would peer into the cavern and assure themselves no one was left there to hurt them. They'd move on only to be shocked when that "dead" position came alive again behind them. The Marines thought they were fighting men in isolated caves and had no idea of the extensive tunnels below.



A surgeon would establish an operating theater in a safe place. With sandbags and tarp he'd build a little hospital and treat his patients away from the battle. Then at night when he lay down exhausted to sleep he'd hear foreign voices below him. Only when his frantic fingers clawed through the sand and hit the wooden roof of an underground cavern would he realize he had been living atop the enemy all along.

The days were full of fear and nights offered terror. The Marines were sleeping on ground that the Japanese had practiced how to crawl over in the darkness, they knew every inch. Imagine sleeping in a haunted man- sion where the owner is a serial murderer who knows the rooms and stairways and trapdoors by touch and you are new. Then you can imagine the tortured sleep of the Marines.

Experienced naval doctors had never seen such carnage. Japanese tanks and high caliber anti-aircraft guns hidden behind walls of rock and concrete ensured that the Marines would not just be cut down, but cut in half or blown to bits.

A seventy five year old veteran of Iwo Jima would still reflexively open his bedroom window in 1999 after dreaming of the battle once again. Fifty four years after the battle the stench of death still filled his nostrils.



The bodies lay everywhere. Young boys who had never been to a funeral became accustomed to rolling another dead buddy aside. Kids full of life worked on burial duty unloading bodies from trucks stacked with death.

Mothers back home would tear open the ominous telegrams with trembling fingers. The survivors would remember sailing away and seeing the rows and rows of white crosses and stars of Davids. Almost seven thousand. Today there are still over six thousand Japanese dead still entombed under the island, dead where they fell in their tunnels and caves. Recently two hundred sixty were excavated, some mummified by the sulphur gases, their glasses sitting straight atop preserved noses, hair still on their heads.

Military geniuses predicted a three day battle, an "easy time." Some of the nicest boys America would ever produce slogged on for thirty six days in what would be the worst battle in the history of the US Marine Corps.

Generals conferred over maps while tanks, airplanes, naval bombs and artillery pounded the island. But it was the individual Marine on the ground with a gun that won the battle. Marines without gladiator's armor who would advance into withering fire. Marines who would not give up simply because they were Marines. A mint in Washington would cast more medals for these Iwo Jima heroes than for any group of fighters in America's history.



America would embrace these heroes, but they were enthralled by an image of heroism, by a photo. Millions of words would be written in the US about 1/400th of a second no one on Iwo Jima thought worthy of remark at the time. Thousands would seek autographs from three survivors who felt "we hadn't done much." Battles would be fought over that image, some dying early because of their inclusion, some living bitterly because of their exclusion.

But that would all come later. After two battles were fought on Iwo Jima, one for Mt. Suribachi and the southern part of the island the other for the northern part. And after one hundred thousand individual battles, personal battles of valor and fear, of determination and dirt.



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To: AntiJen; Chad Fairbanks; SAMWolf
Thank you so much for pinging me...and yes, I'll be sharing pictures and telling stories all day, if you can stand it. : )


41 posted on 02/19/2003 8:31:42 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Uncommon valor was a common virtue." - Admiral Chester Nimitz)
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To: coteblanche
Wow. John Cole. What a poet. He doesn't let you avert your eyes. Is this poem anthologized?
42 posted on 02/19/2003 8:33:47 AM PST by ricpic
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To: SAMWolf
Total Losses U.S. personnel 6,821 Killed 19,217 Wounded 2,648 Combat Fatigue Total 28,686

Marine Casualties 23,573 Japanese Troops 1,083 POW and 20,000 est. Killed

I am confused. You list U.S. personnel total casualities of 28,686 and Marine casualities of 23,573.

Are these seperate figures? Did we have a total casualty number of 52,259?

43 posted on 02/19/2003 8:36:28 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Get High on Life)
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To: AntiJen
"Patriots' Rally For America IV!!"

"Drop what you’re doing. Pack the car, get on a plane, a train, a bus or start walking. Our troops need your support right now! They’re laying it on the line for us overseas and all they are seeing in the media is hundreds of thousands of anti-war/anti-American demonstrators marching in our streets. As evidenced by this article Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait those demonstrations are starting to affect morale. You can do something about that, but it will take time, effort and sacrifice -- a modest sacrifice compared to our men and women in uniform waiting for the the word to take out Saddam and his tyrannical terrorist regime. The D.C. Chapter of Free Republic urges all FReepers and lurkers in good standing, as well as their friends and families, veterans and their friends and families and all others who want to stand up for America and support our troops to join us in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, March 1, 2003 for the Patriots Rally for America IV from 11 a.m. until 3 p.m at the outdoor Sylvan Theater on the grounds of the Washington Monument."

BE THERE or else spend the rest of yer life LYIN' SAYIN' YOU WUZ!!!!

Oughtta be a HOOt...MUD

BTW...has anybody contacted Rush Limbaugh's folks about this?...it's got Dan's Bake Sale written all over it!!

44 posted on 02/19/2003 8:38:38 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Git the US Outta the UN...and Git Ashcroft Outta the DOJ!!!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I can handle it... can't speak for everyone else though (but I'm sure they will love to hear them)
45 posted on 02/19/2003 8:40:55 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: gridlock
58th Anniversary of Iwo Jima
March 6, 2003 through March 14, 2003

Price: $$3295
Tour Director: Warren Wiedhahn, Gary Andrejak and Jim Pilkington
Tour Host: MajGen Fred Haynes, USMC (Ret), Dr. George Gentile and Mr. Cyril "Cy" O'Brien

Apparently you still can go to Iwo.
46 posted on 02/19/2003 8:45:55 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: ken5050
Thanks Ken5050 for the background on the reasoning for taking Iwo. Airstrips played an important role in the Pacific war. The entire Guadacanal Campaign was pretty much centered on capturing/recapturing Henderson field,
47 posted on 02/19/2003 8:49:56 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
We'd be honored. Thanks to your dad for his service.
48 posted on 02/19/2003 8:50:46 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
I am confused. You list U.S. personnel total casualities of 28,686 and Marine casualities of 23,573.

28,686 US Casualties of which 23,573 were Marines.

50 posted on 02/19/2003 8:54:23 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: gridlock
Iwo Jima

Location: Approximately 650 miles south of Tokyo, Japan.

Size of Island: Approximately 2 miles wide, 4 miles long; 8 square miles

Iwo Jima was the first native Japanese soil invaded by Americans in W.W.II. Approximately 60,000 Americans and 20,000 Japanese participated in the Battle.

The American Flag Raising on Mt. Suribachi took place on February 23, 1945 - the fifth day of battle. The Battle continued with increased intensity for a month more. Almost 7,000 Americans were killed in action at Iwo Jima - more than 20,000 American casualties.

Approximately one-third of all Marines killed in action in World War II were killed at Iwo Jima, making Iwo Jima the battle with the highest number of casualties in Marine Corps history.

Twenty-seven Congressional Medals of Honor were awarded in the Battle - more than were awarded to Marines and Navy in any other Battle in our country's history.

Three of the men who raised the flag in the Joe Rosenthal photo were killed before the Battle was over.

After the capture of Iwo Jima, more than 30,000 American Airmen's lives were saved when more than 2,400 disabled B-29 bombers were able to make emergency landings at the Iwo Jima Airfield after making bombing flights over Japan.

Approximately 132 Americans killed at Iwo Jima were unidentifiable and listed as unknown.

More than 50 4th Division Marines died of wounds aboard ship and were buried at sea.

The U.S. government returned the island of Iwo Jima to the Japanese government in 1968, after the bodies of the men in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th Division cemeteries were removed to the United States.

51 posted on 02/19/2003 8:56:09 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: coteblanche; Samwise
Thanks Samwise for sharing your father with us and Cote for providing the link and setting up the pictures.
52 posted on 02/19/2003 8:58:45 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: SAMWolf
Correct.. Guadalcanal had to be captured in order to protect the US lifeline to Australia....ya know slightly off topic, but this weekend was watching some of the newsshows that did interviews with senior American commanders in theater....saw one with a USN ship captain, who when asked if his ship and crew was ready, gave a very PC like statement about, how, if needed, the ship would be tasked by the NCA to fulfill the coalition mandate...I was mentally contrasting it with Halsey's ( or Nimitz's..I forget which) great quote after Pearl Harbor..."The Japanese language will be spoken only in hell!!!"
53 posted on 02/19/2003 9:03:09 AM PST by ken5050
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To: coteblanche
Thank you, cote. Very powerful.

I was telling someone this story on Monday:

My dad was part of a medical team working to save wounded Marines in a large shell crater on Iwo; he and another guy were headed out with an empty stretcher, and as they were leaving, they had a little discussion about who would take the front end and who would take the back. They were joking around about it, and they finally agreed who would go first.

They bent down to pick up the stretcher and my dad was knocked to his knees by an exploding mortar shell. The boy (a 19 year-old) on the other end was killed.

It could so easily have been my dad on the other end of that stretcher.

I have great admiration for that 19 year-old. He had a chance to go home a few hours earlier, when he had been wounded in the arm (a "million dollar" injury, they called it). Dad told him to get out of there. Everyone did. He wanted to stay, and insisted on it.

He ended up in one of those graves.

When I think of the hell he surely saw in his short time on Iwo Jima, and ponder that he stayed there voluntarily - the bravery and loyalty in such a young man - it just amazes me.

There were heroes all over that island.
54 posted on 02/19/2003 9:05:24 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Uncommon valor was a common virtue." - Admiral Chester Nimitz)
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks... its hard for me to accept that the boys who fought on that hell on earth and the things which took to the streets last weekend were spawned by the same nation.
55 posted on 02/19/2003 9:07:17 AM PST by skeeter (Sona si Latine loqueris)
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To: ken5050
Yeah it's a shame that it isn't PC to hate the people who are trying to kill you. One of the reasons I got out of the Guard was the PC was killing me, I didn't fit in anymore.
56 posted on 02/19/2003 9:09:02 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: skeeter
Ain't that the truth!
58 posted on 02/19/2003 9:11:04 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: SAMWolf; tet68; Marine Inspector; grunt03; exmarine; SMEDLEYBUTLER

This is my Mom on the left at the first display of a statue of the Iwo Flag Raising in late 1945 or 46. We believe it is near 8th and I street in DC, she cannot remember. This statue has been removed since, and I would like to know if anyone has ever seen it while in the Corps!

60 posted on 02/19/2003 9:14:01 AM PST by RaceBannon
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