Posted on 02/13/2009 4:10:16 PM PST by SandRat
I wouldn’t dispute that. There are two types of VFW/Legion members; those who want the organizations to promote the interests of service members and lobby for a militarily strong America versus those who want the VFW/Legion to be a kind of military AARP.
I went to the Oregon VFW Mid-Winter Conference this weekend and had a interesting discussion with the visiting Department of Washington Commander about the CBO study. He is Definitely for the Strong America stance.
The Oregon folks were just as outraged.
Meanwhile.. in Progressive Portland, OR.. area.. the members of the Legion Post I belong too.. act more like the AARP types you described.
Interesting material, thanks for posting this.
FOR ALL OF YOU ASKING FOR A TRUE LINK - HERE’S ONE FOR YOU:
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d07647.pdf
If you want to know the truth then follow this link. This was the proposal under former President George W. Bush in 2007 and is something that has been pushed around Washington since as early as 2003. If you want to find some more information for yourself try Googling “tricare proposal” and see what comes up.
Unless someone can prove to me that this information is recent and has been proposed by the very President that is trying to use our medical care system as an example of the health care that should be available to ALL Americans then I will consider it as accurate as all the other propaganda and false information put out there in an attempt to sabotage our President.
Please don’t let these blatant attempts to manipulate you work!!!
I don’t understand the outrage. Even through your own reference, this was a report given to Congress in February 2008. Obama was nowhere near being a President and I don’t think he was even running. The GAO report that helped drive these proposals was in May 2007. Again, they are proposals. Why is this titled as if Obama is going to do it?
I read page 183. The logic seems to be valid, although I don’t think its as drastic. It’s the same problem HMOs have in any system. 22 percent of why people were using the benefits was unnecessary. If you propose a small co-pay, people might actually start using the system more for true health care issues. My problem is that there aren’t enough Tricare-accepting urgent care clinics so that people stop going to the emergency room for paper cuts and fevers.
Via your resource, it does also state the disadvantages of such a cut. People may not do preventive care.
Again, I don’t understand why this says Obama is going to do it, when it’s a proposal that’s been in congress since 2008?
Please infest someplace else.
What do they pay you?
A proposal out there that the anti-military poser President and his sycophant DimORATS in congress will likely push and pass as a “PEACE Dividend.”
no one pays me anything to do basic internet research. The CBO isn’t even politically motivated. This same story could have came out against any President and the answer would be the same: a proposal from an independent office doesn’t mean the President is proposing it to congress. It coulda been Bush, Reagan..I’m just saying that either way, this is bogus.
How about the VA? What do VA watchdogs thing about the rumor that Obama is proposing this crap?
Here you go:
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfjan09/nf013109-1.htm
But there I go, using logic to dispell a rumor.
You might be right. Don’t care much. The point is that you used your first post to defend the thing that is now running the country. Enjoy what I’m sure will be a short stay. (dispel, dispelled, dispelling)
no, I am right, and it’s not by my own opinion. I didn’t use the first post to defend Obama; its to defend the system. This could have been titled “Bush to cut vet programs” and I would have done the same thing. Regardless of who does it, it’s still not the president’s policy. What’s wrong with pointing that out, or is this a he-man woman-haters club where if you mention “obama” it always has to be something mean spirited? That’s no better than Nancy Pelosi and her constant “bush is an idiot” and “repbulicans are stoopid” rants. Ridiculous.
I write on many sites and I’ve defended Bush against lies, too. But if the free republic is going to push an agenda, attacking someone who is trying to sort out the truth is like being bullied for not liking pepsi.
Okey dokey.
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I know this has been debunked, and to prove it further would be to pile on, but I’m gonna pile on anyway: It says at one point an “Army” general, then labels the guy, “USAF.”
Gotta keep the lies straight.
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