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Obama Targets Military Health Care - 50% cut
email | SandRat

Posted on 02/13/2009 4:10:16 PM PST by SandRat

After reading this, please notify your Senator and Representatives to vote 'NO' on this part, if you are against taking even more from our Military. No other job in this country asks you to risk your life for your job!!!! Prisoners get free medical as does the crack heads of this country.......WHY should we take from our Military to enable those kinds of people to have more??????!!!!! This will take away from Active and Veterans of our country.

PLEASE PASS THIS ON QUICKLY!!!!!

From: Retired O-6

Subj: Obama Targets Military Health Care-50% cut.

Guess we had better be ready to write our Representatives

I believe most of you are retirees or know someone who is and is enjoying the fruit of the sacrifice made, especially the medical benefit.

Pls read what I received from a trustworthy source-- I also went to the Congressional Budget Office site, page 189, to verify the proposed cut in our benefits; the email will tell you how to find it, too-- and we need to start making noise with our congressman and anyone else who can have influence in this. (this is not a forward. I actually researched this myself) My office just got word today that our new President Elect Obama has proposed a plan to cut military health care benefits! This is great news for the 99.9% Veterans and Active Duty members who are currently using health care benefits. The Congressional Budget Office has made public a proposal stating that Veterans (you know the men and women who have fought in wars and spent 20 plus years in the service) are now going to be paying up to 50% of their medical bill. Thats a big jump from paying nothing for the past 30 some odd years.

The biggest kicker is Active Duty Military (yep, I said Active Duty) will now be paying 10% of their total bill. They will now be billed for their kids visiting the doctor. Again, a big jump from being free!

Another benefit subject to change is VA medical benefits. Everyone who is receiving a benefit from the VA for a service related injury will have to be re-assessed and the proposal states this will affect "90% of vets receiving VA benefits and will save the government $53 Billion dollars over 10 years".

Needless to say, today is the first time I have heard from the few Obama supporters in my office say "if this gets passed they will not continue to be a supporter".

Isn't this the candidate that just a few months ago was preaching to get health care coverage too ALL! Isn't it ironic and moronic to steel $53 Billion from vets and active duty military families so the Crack Head down the street will receive free medical coverage.

If your as upset as I am then write your elected officials so hopefully some of the dummies running this country see the light and would never even dream of taking away a penny from a military member!

Here are some links to article.

http://soldiersmind.com/2009/01/07/proposed-tricare-cuts-could-cause-problems-for-military-families-and-retirees/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=4305

Feel free to Google if you're in dis-belief.

Below is a message from an Army General who also points out some links and ways how to contact your elected representative.

Subject: FW: TriCare for Life's Future

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:14:10 -0800

To All,

This is for real. The heavy assault has begun on Veterans'/Retirees'benefits to pay for other programs. The word on the street is that these indeed are a high priority of the Obama administration. The one most of interest to Retired Military is in Article 189. If approved by Congress the first assault wave would hit the beaches in 2011 and would hit hard. It would initiate cost sharing to require retirees to pay the first $525 of medical cost and 50% of the next $4,725 for a first year cost of $2,888 per person. It would be indexed to increase with inflation. A reason given for this action (for PR effect) is "overuse" by Retirees.

For those of you who are covered by TFL you will want to pay attention to what BG Bob Clements has surfaced about the future of TFL.

If you know of anyone who is Retired Military, please forward this on to them.

I don't know how many of you partake of the TriCare for Life program but here is a very interesting note on the subject. Seems as though our President Elect has placed a priority on cutting it out of the budget as a means to provide funding for those things he promised during the campaign.

In any case, on page 189 of the Congressional Budget Office report, see the note below on how to get to that spot, there is a strong recommendation to eventually eliminate the program as it is too expensive. I would ask that you contact your elected officials and register your strong opposition to the elimination of this program. Just another move to slight those of us who dedicated much of our adult lives to the defense of our country.

Thanks for listening.

Heads-up from BG Bob Clements, USAF Ret (P38 Bob) The following has been added to the Congressional Budget Office Web Site http://www.cbo.gov/

a. Budget, Options, Volume 1: Health Care

(http://www..cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925

For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB :

1. double click on the above URL

2. click on PDF

3. click on the binoculars

4. do a search for TFL

"Now here it is folks and I will guarantee if you sit around on your behind and do nothing about it as they bring these options forward this coming year, you will lose one of the best healthcare benefits that the> Medicare eligible retired military have. It is short of the promises made that we fought so hard for back in the late 90s and early 2000s but it is still the best healthcare program that anyone in the United States has, bar none.

People who are professionals always look for the channel of least resistance when it comes to cutting money out of the Federal and DOD budget. I can tell you this straight on, military retirees are one of those channels of least resistance noted for sitting around, doing nothing, and waiting for ole Joe to do it for them. You had better wake up. Your medical benefits are prime target. If you lose them, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Let me repeat that ... you have nobody to blame but yourself.

The way to secure your benefits is to write to your members of Congress and to keep writing and writing and writing. ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH!! Keep repeating the above statement until you are blue in the face.

Now I'm going to make one more statement to all of you younger people out there who are not yet eligible for TriCare for Life. HEALTH CARE WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME THE DOMINATING FACTOR IN YOUR LIFE. Remember that . . . .it will impact you big time with the utmost in cruelty unless you are fortunate enough to die from a heart attack . . . or get run over by a truck.

Now, I am going to attach AGAIN exactly what OMB has in store for military retirees using TFL. This source is directly from OMB and is not something that I have dreamed up. They are telling you exactly what they are going to do with your benefits. If you do nothing, this is what you will get.

The service organizations will put up a fight and are aware of this and will put up a fight but, they will need your help and can't do it by themselves..

I hope this makes it clear as to what you can expect if you do nothing.

To show you how stupid these professionals can be at times if you will read the attached document closely you will see that in spite of the MTFs (Military Treatment Facility) need to get patients back to keep their doctors busy and the hospitals from going to clinic status, these people from OMB would employ a means to keep retirees from using MTF facilities by charging them a fee for services. How dumb can you get.

Even if you are an Obama lover, and believe that changeth cometh, TFL option from OMB will not go away. They need the money they spend on you for other programs for people who produce nothing but votes to keep their boss in office. chk 6 .. bob"

A footnote: BG Bob Clement is known with affection as"P38bob". He flew P38s in WWII. He was one of the stalwart warriors that led effectively from the front when the hard battles were being fought to bring TriCare for Life to reality. I was honored and pleased to a player in that effort by following P38 Bob's lead.

MilVets: it looks like we will again be confronted by the 'attack of the beancounters' who, by and large, wouldn't know (and probably never will know) genuine unselfish service to our country and are solely motivated by crunching numbers so that those numbers will reflect favorably on their bosses and their boss's causes. They have no thought to the havoc they would cause . . . in many cases the loss of any amount of TFL benefits would be a an insurmountable hardship ..... and to some it would truly be a death sentence.

It is well that we gear up for the fight now. As P38 Bob says, we must write, write, write and write. Once is not enough! In time I will be preparing letters for your use in writing to your elected officials and submitting them to the TREA Membership, and to others who may want to join the fight.


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This was copied directly from the email.
1 posted on 02/13/2009 4:10:16 PM PST by SandRat
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To: SandRat

I need more substantive sources.


2 posted on 02/13/2009 4:13:48 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: SandRat

Someone has to pay for Porkulus.


3 posted on 02/13/2009 4:13:50 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SandRat

This might sound mean but how many of these people suppported Obama, and to say they wount support him anymore if this is true is well to say the least is A day late and a dollar short.


4 posted on 02/13/2009 4:13:57 PM PST by bzybee
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To: SandRat

Are you F’n kidding me? If that SOB messes up my husbands benenfits, that it! He needs to GO! My husband is a Vietnam combat vet we owe him!


5 posted on 02/13/2009 4:14:53 PM PST by defconw (You can't reason someone out of a position they were never reasoned into to begin with.)
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To: SandRat
this is beyond DESPICABLE!!!

So looting 1 TRILLION DOLLARS from the the US taxpayers to give to their democrat cronies as political payoff which we will be saddled with for decades is not enough, these liberals are now spitting in the faces of our Military by cutting health benefits??!!!

6 posted on 02/13/2009 4:16:19 PM PST by prophetic (God, let 0Bama and his evil plans for this country fail & let him be utterly disgraced like HAMAN!!)
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To: SumProVita
http://soldiersmind.com/2009/01/07/proposed-tricare-cuts-could-cause-pro blems-for-military-families-and-retirees/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=4305 Feel free to Google if you're in dis-belief. Heads-up from BG Bob Clements, USAF Ret (P38 Bob) The following has been added to the Congressional Budget Office Web Site http://www.cbo.gov/ a. Budget, Options, Volume 1: Health Care (http://www..cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925 For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB : 1. double click on the above URL 2. click on PDF 3. click on the binoculars 4. do a search for TFL
7 posted on 02/13/2009 4:20:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

I don’t know how dependable this is, but I’ve never talked to a Marxist who didn’t want to hurt our military. I had hoped that once 0 became our dictator, he would see the military as his, and leave it alone. At least then patriots would have it when we retake this nation.


8 posted on 02/13/2009 4:20:37 PM PST by pallis
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To: SandRat

I used your first url and got the following:

Not Found, Error 404

The page you are looking for no longer exists. Perhaps you can find what you are looking for by searching the site archives by page, month, or category:


9 posted on 02/13/2009 4:22:36 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: SandRat

WTF?! I can’t keep up with this stuff. I just spent a week calling, faxing, emailing, posting and filling out e-forms to senators informing them of my opposition to this StickitToUs Bill.

BTTT


10 posted on 02/13/2009 4:23:37 PM PST by Vendome
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To: SandRat

Is there somewhere we can go read this?


11 posted on 02/13/2009 4:27:05 PM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: SandRat

Sorry for my typo’s. My blood pressure went from 0 to 60 in three seconds.


12 posted on 02/13/2009 4:28:23 PM PST by defconw (You can't reason someone out of a position they were never reasoned into to begin with.)
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To: SumProVita

Try this...

http://soldiersmind.com/2009/01/07/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=print&sid=4305

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=9925

For those who have never opened one of these web sites from OMB :

1. double click on the above URL

2. click on PDF

3. click on the binoculars

4. do a search for TFL


13 posted on 02/13/2009 4:29:29 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Osage Orange

See reply #13


14 posted on 02/13/2009 4:30:41 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

If this is the case it should be front and center on the VFW and American Legion website!


15 posted on 02/13/2009 4:30:54 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: defconw

Get a laugh and lower your blood pressure
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My wife was hinting about what she wanted for our upcoming anniversary.
She said, “I want something shiny that goes from 0 to 150 in about 3 seconds.”

I bought her a bathroom scale.

And then the fight started ...
ouch!


16 posted on 02/13/2009 4:33:32 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: MSF BU

See reply #13


17 posted on 02/13/2009 4:34:50 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat
Links to referenced articles in the original post:

Proposed Tricare Cuts Could Cause Problems For Military Families and Retirees

CBO eyes military retirees, vets for health cost cuts

18 posted on 02/13/2009 4:35:04 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: SandRat

LOL, well OK. :)


19 posted on 02/13/2009 4:35:55 PM PST by defconw (You can't reason someone out of a position they were never reasoned into to begin with.)
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To: SandRat

From the CBO:

Budget Options, Volume 1: Health Care

December 2008 (Obama wasn’t POTUS yet)


20 posted on 02/13/2009 4:38:59 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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