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Poll: Libertarian Johnson beating Trump, Clinton among active troops
thehill.com ^ | July 20, 2016 | Kristina Wong

Posted on 07/21/2016 5:37:59 PM PDT by grundle

Military troops favor Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson for president over Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, according to a new survey.

Johnson garnered 38.7 percent of the active duty vote, versus 30.9 for Trump, and 14.1 for Clinton, according to the survey, which was conducted via the popular military personality Doctrine Man.

Although the survey was not a scientific poll with a margin of error, it provides a snapshot of the preferences of about 3,500 active duty, reservists, retired and former members of the military and their family members, 95.7 percent of which were registered voters.

Among all services except for the Navy, Johnson performed better than Trump and Clinton.

Current, reserve and former members of the Army preferred Johnson at 35.4 percent. Trump, the Republican nominee, came in second at 31.4 percent, and Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, at 15.3 percent.

Among the Marine community, an overwhelming 44.1 percent chose Johnson, while 27.1 percent chose Trump, and 12.7 percent chose Clinton.

The majority of the Air Force respondents chose Johnson at 39 percent, but Trump next at 29.9 percent and Clinton at 12.9 percent.

Trump ranked the top choice for the Navy community, at 32.4 percent, versus 31.7 percent for Johnson and 22.9 percent for Clinton.

Despite Clinton's underwhelming performance among active duty troops in the poll, their family members preferred Clinton at 29.4 percent to 27.5 percent for Trump. Johnson came in third, at 24.5 percent.

Trump came out on top among members of the military who retired after serving at least 20 years.

Retirees preferred Trump at 37.4 percent, compared to 32.2 percent for Johnson and only 11 percent for Hillary Clinton.

However, when former members of the military who served fewer than 20 years were included, Johnson came in first, at 36.1 percent, while Hillary Clinton garnered 12.6 percent.

The new survey underscores the unpopularity of both Trump and Clinton, something that was also reflected in a recent Military Times survey.

Troops have found themselves at the center of several heated campaign debates, many of them sparked by Trump.

Trump has said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who was held captive during the Vietnam War, is "not a war hero" and has said that if he ordered troops to re-institute waterboarding, they would do it. Trump has also called for killing terrorists' families.

Trump has also railed against the Department of Veteran Affairs and suggested Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl should be executed for leaving his post.

The attention to troops this campaign cycle has prompted the nation's top military officer, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Marine Gen. Joseph Dunford, to remind troops not to politicize the military during the elections.

"What we must collectively guard against is allowing our institution to become politicized, or even perceived as being politicized, by how we conduct ourselves during engagements with the media, the public, or in open or social forums," he wrote in the July issue of Joint Force Quarterly, a military academic journal.


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To: grundle

Probably the “missing” State Dept money during her time? Just guessing out loud...


21 posted on 07/21/2016 5:47:31 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (HTTP 500 - Internal Server Error)
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To: grundle

the big ‘L’ Libertarians also support NAMBLA

vote for big ‘L’ Libertarians if you approve of pedophiles


22 posted on 07/21/2016 5:47:53 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: grundle

wow, any asshole can make up a poll now.


23 posted on 07/21/2016 5:49:00 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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To: grundle
the survey was not a scientific poll

So the poll results mean nothing.

24 posted on 07/21/2016 5:49:42 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspiration)
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To: grundle; Jim Robinson

Well Gooch!

I was wondering how long it would take you to come out from under your rock and reveal yourself for the Ron Paul/Libertaritard whacko that you always have been.

Any day now you’ll be shilling for the Green Party as well.
(Just like 2012.)

You just can’t help yourself.


25 posted on 07/21/2016 5:50:05 PM PDT by shibumi (Just a Bias-Ply Guy in a Steel Radial World)
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To: WENDLE

BOTH assertions are true!


26 posted on 07/21/2016 5:50:38 PM PDT by EarlT357
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To: grundle

Solders don’t even know who this pot head is.


27 posted on 07/21/2016 5:52:02 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: grundle
I live near a Marine Corps Air Station and a major Army installation. I associate with many of the troops and their families. I also associate with former service members including retired.

My biased poll shows Trump walking away with close to 80% of their support. Their overwhelming emotion for this support is desperation for leadership.

By definition a libertarian would not provide this and by performance the hildabeast hasn't.

28 posted on 07/21/2016 5:52:44 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

It’s a bullsh*t poll to drive the narrative to get Johnson in the debates to tagteam Trump. Count on it.


Yep. That is the big push by Cruz and the rest of the never Trumpers now. Get Johnson into the debates so there are not only “two candidates”. Johnson only needs 15% in the national polls to get on the stage. He was at 11% in the last one I saw.


29 posted on 07/21/2016 5:52:56 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: grundle
Giant giveaway this is bullcrap:

... the survey, which was conducted via the popular military personality Doctrine Man....
Although the survey was not a scientific poll with a margin of error....

In other words, some guy with a following of like minded fans reflected his own thoughts. Shocking.

30 posted on 07/21/2016 5:53:40 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: EarlT357

We better get them ready to fight and die. And these little girls don’t get PT adjusted with the GD moslem bastards!! It will happen.


31 posted on 07/21/2016 5:53:45 PM PDT by WENDLE ( Donald John Trump is the greatest AMERICAN since George Washington !)
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To: grundle

The Rats won’t let them be counted anyway!


32 posted on 07/21/2016 5:54:19 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: grundle

Bs but I like the low Hillary number.


33 posted on 07/21/2016 5:54:32 PM PDT by Williams (If Trump is not the nominee ... The party's over.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Yepper, and Cruze throws them his endorsement:

Did Ted Cruz just endorse
Gary Johnson?

It sure sounded like it and the LP proudly welcomes
Cruz supporters.
Last night at the Republican National Convention, Sen. Cruz encouraged Americans to “vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.”
The Libertarian Party agrees.

Nicholas Sarwark, Chair of the Libertarian National Committee, says, “Come November, we encourage those who seek to follow their conscience, who love freedom and the Constitution, as Sen. Cruz describes, to vote Libertarian. We have candidates running for positions ranging from President to City Council.”

“I don’t agree with Senator Cruz on every issue, but this election is a job interview for the most important job in the country. His call to not stay home in November, to vote your conscience, to vote for the candidate who will defend the Constitution, is one that people should heed. If Americans look past names and party labels, the most honest, trustworthy, and qualified candidate is very clearly Gary Johnson. Maybe that’s why the delegates at his convention savagely booed his call to ‘vote your conscience.’”

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34 posted on 07/21/2016 5:55:40 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: grundle
More MSM nonsense. The phony Libertarians won't get 5% of the vote.
35 posted on 07/21/2016 5:58:43 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: grundle

Lost me at “it was not a scientific poll”.


36 posted on 07/21/2016 5:58:51 PM PDT by Chewbarkah (o)
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To: utford; All

Utford. Why don’t you pull your head out of somewhere else and do a little research instead of posting snarky, sarcastic comments? Doesn’t take too much effort to find these things for yourself.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/military-poll-Trump-Clinton/2016/07/17/id/739074/


37 posted on 07/21/2016 5:59:19 PM PDT by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again)
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To: lodi90

How many of these Cruz supporters that got pissed off last night will flock to Johnson no? Enough to pass 15?


38 posted on 07/21/2016 5:59:34 PM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: grundle

Yeah right! Go away! These are the same bastards that lied and said troop polls show they favored gays in military.


39 posted on 07/21/2016 6:01:33 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: grundle; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker; LS; ...
Although the survey was not a scientific poll

Don't need to read past this point.

40 posted on 07/21/2016 6:01:56 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery)
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