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To: ET(end tyranny)
Did you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary?

"Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks...

Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.

Albert Einstein
Time Magazine, 12/23/40

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The charity and work of Pope Pius XII during World War II so impressed the Chief Rabbi of Rome, Israel Zolli, that in 1944 he was open to the grace of God which led him into the Catholic faith. As his baptismal name, he took the same one Pius had, Eugenio, as his own. Later Israel Eugenio Zolli wrote a book entitled, Why I Became a Catholic.

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"The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas... he is about the only ruler left on the Continent of Europe who dares to raise his voice at all... the Pope put himself squarely against Hitlerism... he left no doubt that the Nazi aims are also irreconcilable with his own conception of a Christian peace."

The New York Times editorial
12/25/41 (Late Day edition, p. 24)

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"This Christmas more than ever he is a lonely voice crying out of the silence of a continent... Pope Pius expresses as passionately as any leader on our side the war aims of the struggle for freedom when he says that those who aim at building a new world must fight for free choice of government and religious order. They must refuse that the state should make of individuals a herd of whom the state disposes as if they were lifeless things."

The New York Times editorial
12/25/42 (Late Day edition, p. 16)


29 posted on 10/10/2003 6:10:18 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
It's no secret that the church despised Jews. Why do you find it so hard then, to accept that there were indeed those withing the church and its heirarchy that deliberatly kept silent and even thought Hitler was doing something NOBLE!

From the Council of Nicea (325):(excerpted)

It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and whose minds were blinded.

In rejecting their custom,(1) we may transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter, which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not, therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and more convenient course(the order of the days of the week); and consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them?

They do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such wicked people[the Jews].

That's why the church needed to change the calendar, needed to do away with the Sabbath and started Sun-day worship, in 'honor of the venerable Sun'. Why they needed to distance themselves from Passover and celebrate Easter, a name derived from the pagan godess of fertility, widely known at the time.

The church has done nearly all it could to distance themselves from the root that they 'claim' to be grafted unto. Yet, it resembles nothing of the root anymore.

30 posted on 10/10/2003 9:39:33 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Proverbs 6:23 -- For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; . . . the way of life)
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To: Aquinasfan
ANTI JUDAISM 70 - 1200 CE
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers1.htm


ANTI JUDAISM 1201 - 1800 CE (lest you think i'm singling out Catholics, take a look at Martin Luther's words under the year 1543. BTW - i was raised Lutheran)
http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers3.htm


THE ROLE OF THE CHURCH IN THE HOLOCAUST - This site also addresses positive aspects of the RCC, and Pope Pius XII involvement. Though Einstein was aware of Pius' positive role, it is highly unlikely that he remained ignorant of all the other stuff :
http://www.religioustolerance.org/vat_hol1.htm


APOLOGY (sorta/barely <---my words there) BY THE RCC FOR PAST SINS OF ITS MEMBERS: http://www.religioustolerance.org/pope_apo.htm


Like i said in an earlier post......look at history...the crusades, the inquisitions, tyranny, and more...a time of GREAT TRIBULATION.


You keep referring me to the same Catholic website. I've read parts of it on occasion. But, I wouldn't be honest with myself if i were to ignore all the other info available on these subjects. It's in books and all over the web. The links above are mild compared to the stuff that's out there. If you dig a little deeper, it doesn't take much time to find sites that go into greater detail of the inquisitions/crusades, and include pictures of methods and tools of torture. It's physically nauseating. That some people choose to buy the justifications/whitewashing revisionism/denials by the church is, IMO, tragic.

You speak of "documented" evidence. You trust that because you trust the RCC. I don't. I would guess there's documented evidence that OJ loved his wife, too.
34 posted on 10/15/2003 10:18:23 PM PDT by 1 spark
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